Fuel pump rebuilding

  • The picture above is the graduation picture for the "Fuel Pump Class of 2008". All of you that have patiently waited for your pump to be completed, the wait is now over. I will start shipping the ones that are prepaid and I will follow up with the unpaid people for ones that are not paid so that I can get them shipped as well. This has truly been an International project as these pumps have come to me from all over the world. The Hipo forum gets credit for helping this happen as it could not have happened without the assistance of so many people on this forum. I wish to publicly thank everyone for their faith in me in getting this task completed. I have had a good run with these and I am happy that I could pull it off.


    -Fred-

    65 Koupe early San Jose Phoenician Yellow 4 speed
    66 GT Koupe Dearborn Blue 4 speed
    66 KGT San Jose fastback pony interior Silver Frost 4 speed
    64 Falcon sedan delivery 289 4 speed
    65 Ranchero 289 4 speed
    66 Corvette roadster 427/425 4 speed

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    The picture above is the graduation picture for the "Fuel Pump Class of 2008".


    -Fred-

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    Hey, I see my pump! The sixth row, fifth one in...WOW! <img src=images/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

  • Gene, Yours is actually the first one in the second row. The one that you thought was yours actually belongs to Bob Gaines.


    My thanks go out to Britton for posting my picture.


    -Fred-

    65 Koupe early San Jose Phoenician Yellow 4 speed
    66 GT Koupe Dearborn Blue 4 speed
    66 KGT San Jose fastback pony interior Silver Frost 4 speed
    64 Falcon sedan delivery 289 4 speed
    65 Ranchero 289 4 speed
    66 Corvette roadster 427/425 4 speed

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    So how many of those are 3939S and 4201S pumps?

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    Well, I know there is at least one 4201s in there... <img src=images/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

  • Fred,

    Your organizational skills must be amazing just to keep

    these from getting mixed up. Almost regret that I didn't send my 3939 pump which was NOS in the box. Should have sent my 4201

    that I brought with me to Sweden last summer for my friend's 66

    Shelby, 6S923. It works fine but could have used some TLC.

    Well, this is what the hobby is all about, isn't it?

    Friends helping friends.

    /Bo

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    Gene, Yours is actually the first one in the second row. The one that you thought was yours actually belongs to Bob Gaines.


    -Fred-

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    Amazing stuff, Fred...At first, I <i>guessed</i> mine was in the second row. Then, the only question was: second row from the top, or second row from the bottom... It's great to see a picture of so many pumps. Just think of all the high revving horsepower they will feed!

  • This picture probably represents the largest gathering of this style of fuel pump in recent history and probably for the future. I appreciate everyones trust in sending me your "babies". I put forth my best efforts to make these come out as good as possible with all of the challenges that took place. I took this project on as a challenge and I am happy that I was able to see it through. This involved a number of trips to the rebuilder and plater. I had to engrave ID's, disassemble the levers from the pumps and do my own cleaning on these. The reason that I had to disasseble and reassemble the arms was that the rebuilders typically drill out the opposite side of the casting to remove the pin for the arm. They then fill the hole in when they reassemble them. There was one on Ebay yesterday from GGT500 that was done this way.


    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/…%3AIT&viewitem=


    I did not feel that anyone on this board would want their pump done this way so I had to figure out and make some tools to remove the pin without drilling out the casting as the rebuilder would have done. This, of course, took a lot more time than the way the rebuilder does it but I felt that it was mandatory. Had I not given the rebuilder some samples of mine to do I would not have known about this until it was too late. Then when it came time for reassembly, they really did not want to do them one at a time to keep everyones pieces together as they usually run an assembly line to make things easier for them. One thing that overcomes this kind of problem is money so I renegotiated the price to make sure that they were done properly. In the end everyone will get back the exact pieces that were sent to me minus some dirt and plus a rebuild. I give credit to Bob Peckham for his input on how to ID the pieces to keep them together through all of these processes.


    -Fred-

    65 Koupe early San Jose Phoenician Yellow 4 speed
    66 GT Koupe Dearborn Blue 4 speed
    66 KGT San Jose fastback pony interior Silver Frost 4 speed
    64 Falcon sedan delivery 289 4 speed
    65 Ranchero 289 4 speed
    66 Corvette roadster 427/425 4 speed

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    ...I wish to publicly thank everyone for their faith in me in getting this task completed. I have had a good run with these and I am happy that I could pull it off...

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    Fred, the thanks goes to you! Without your efforts this likely would have never happened. Your attention to detail and not settling for an inferior dissasembly/reassembly process is much appreciated.


    Thanks again!

    Dave

    Dave
    6S1757

  • A BIG THANKS TO FRED,FOR ALL YOUR TIME AND SHARP EYE FOR DETAIL. THANKS JIM<img src=images/icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=images/icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

  • For all of you who have prepaid your pumps, I packed quite a few of them today and already managed to get some of them off to FedEx. For those of you who are not paid I have already contacted all of you by email. If you did not get an email from me, you need to contact me as I have had intermittent email problems.


    -Fred-

    65 Koupe early San Jose Phoenician Yellow 4 speed
    66 GT Koupe Dearborn Blue 4 speed
    66 KGT San Jose fastback pony interior Silver Frost 4 speed
    64 Falcon sedan delivery 289 4 speed
    65 Ranchero 289 4 speed
    66 Corvette roadster 427/425 4 speed

  • Now the question is, can standard arms be modified with the dimple so that a standard pump can be rebuilt as a HiPo pump? Ford serviced the 1963-64 fuel pumps with the HiPo lower spring sometime in 1965. From what I have seen, the HiPo spring was red (Ford books indicated blue). The 1963-64 springs were brown. The good news is that since Ford service the older springs with the HiPo, it also means the older springs are close enough in specs to be used as a HiPo spring. So, if a dimple could be stamped in the arm and a spring from a 1963-64 pump added, you would have a functionally identical fuel pump to the HiPo. It might not be as nice as having an original, but it is the next best thing. Be a good project?

  • Bob, I thought about the dimple in the arm while I was going through the rebuilding process. It is fairly deep and I feel that the arm would need to be heated rosy red there to accomplish the task of stamping the dimple. I was afraid of hurting the heat treat of the arm. A spring is certainly not a big deal to come up with. I have an NOS C5OZ spring and it is red. The bottom line for me on the second spring is that the service we are usually putting our Hipos through these days (lower RPMs than red line) would not need the second spring. If I was going racing with a Hipo these days I would elect to use a less valuable pump.


    -Fred-

    65 Koupe early San Jose Phoenician Yellow 4 speed
    66 GT Koupe Dearborn Blue 4 speed
    66 KGT San Jose fastback pony interior Silver Frost 4 speed
    64 Falcon sedan delivery 289 4 speed
    65 Ranchero 289 4 speed
    66 Corvette roadster 427/425 4 speed

  • All of the pumps that are prepaid have been shipped by FedEx. I have sent emails to everyone with tracking numbers. I wish to thank everyone for their patience.


    -Fred-

    65 Koupe early San Jose Phoenician Yellow 4 speed
    66 GT Koupe Dearborn Blue 4 speed
    66 KGT San Jose fastback pony interior Silver Frost 4 speed
    64 Falcon sedan delivery 289 4 speed
    65 Ranchero 289 4 speed
    66 Corvette roadster 427/425 4 speed

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