vin number on block

Fordnut · May 18, 2006 at 11:42 PM

curious, what is the location of the vin number on the block? found it on the bottom of the trans. main case, but haven't found it anywhere on the block. is it on all the blocks?

thanks,

fordnut

Edited by - SixT5HiPo on 01/16/2007 11:46:36

65Rangoon_old · May 18, 2006 at 11:54 PM

Unfortunately the VIN is not found on all K engines. But if it was factory stamped, it will be about an inch above the oil pan on the right front corner of the block.

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CSXEng_old · May 18, 2006 at 11:55 PM

Fordnut,

It's by the negative cable bolt on the right

side of the block above the oil pan lip. <img src=images/icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

DJames_old · May 19, 2006 at 12:04 AM

The vin is stamped on the passenger side of the block,towards the front, right above the oil pan.You are probably going to hear all sorts of things about whether or not they were all stamped. All that I can say is that 30 years ago it was common knowledge that they were all vin stamped.It is possible that 3 or 4 slipped through the cracks and got missed, but it is highly unlikely that the father of the modern assembly line handled something like this in a way slip-shod enough to boil down to however the guy on the line wanted to play it on a given day.These were very expensive motors and Ford knew that evrybody that bought one was going to try just as hard as they could to blow it up as quickly as possible, so they wanted that number on there for warranty purposes.Many people were successful at blowing up their motors.Now we have a bunch of thirty year old guys that know for a fact that the motor has never been out of their forty year old car and, since it isn't vin stamped, not all of them were vin stamped.What they actually know for a fact about the first twenty years of that car's life is nothing, with the possible exception of who the original owner was.They've heard this, they've been told that and they believe it, but they don't know for sure anything.I have seen some that were stamped so faintly that you had to have the block out on a table with good light shining on it from just the right angle to make it out, but it was there.

BoS_old · May 19, 2006 at 1:30 AM

Yeah, the only hipo blocks I have seen without

the vin were service blocks or in Cobras.

Have owned several hipo blocks and they were all stamped

with the vin but like you said, many were poorly stamped

and time and rust made them almost invisable.

/Bo

noelfisher_old · May 19, 2006 at 8:45 AM

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...everybody that bought one was going to try just as hard as they could to blow it up as quickly as possible, so they wanted that number on there for warranty purposes.

Undeniable. Everything you said makes perfect sense.

kar-nut_old · May 19, 2006 at 9:30 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>They've heard this, they've been told that and they believe it, but they don't know for sure anything. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

Absolutly, not only about the engine but the entire vehicle. It is amazing how many people thing they know more about these car's then FoMoCo does.

kgtman_old · May 19, 2006 at 11:49 AM

For a spirited discussion on this, please read the following thread. It was very interesting! <img src=images/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

http://www.hipomustang.com/hpmx/topic.asp…ue&TOPIC_ID=746

Tom

s2ms · May 19, 2006 at 12:17 PM

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Now we have a bunch of thirty year old guys that know for a fact that the motor has never been out of their forty year old car....

Hold on there. I know for a fact the motor in my car is not VIN stamped. Wait a sec, I forgot (happens all the time, guess I'm not 30 anymore), that's because the original was blown up. Crap. <img src=images/icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle>

At least I know how it happened. The owner at the time threw a rod during a SCCA road race in 1973. The block was destroyed but fortunately everything else except two rods survived and he rebuilt the engine using a D1ZE Boss 302 service block and Boss rods.

Fordnut · May 19, 2006 at 9:41 PM

thanks for all the information to all, this web site is excellent. after some scrubing, and scrapping in the right place, found the vin on the block, it matches all the others on the car. I'm one happy camper. not that it makes any difference, it's not going to be up for sale anyway. thanks again for the help. something interresting, the car was build january 4, 65, the heads are both date coded 21-4m9, the block is 4m12. seems like a rather short window to me. who knows.

thanks again for the help,

fordnut

DJames_old · May 19, 2006 at 11:04 PM

The window isn't really as small as it probably looks.Ford was running behind schedule quite a bit on the 65s.They had no idea that the mustang would hit as hard as it did.The beat their target of '417 by 417' (417,000 sold by april 17, 65)by a substantial margin.I've got one car that had a build date of june 4th, 64 and everything is stamped mid to late may.I've got another one that the build date is aug 12, 64 and everything is stamped late aug to mid sept.I just recently went through a deal that ended up with me swapping the original fan from that car for one that is correct for that car.<img src=images/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>Your car probably didn't actually roll out the door until late jan to early feb.

Edited by - DJames on 05/19/2006 23:05:26

HiPoHerb_old · November 23, 2006 at 11:46 PM

My K code had the vin #stamped on the bottom of of the block and was covered by the oil pan, as you know, it is also stamped on the transmission too.

garymcgowan_old · November 24, 2006 at 7:19 AM

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My K code had the vin #stamped on the bottom of of the block and was covered by the oil pan, as you know, it is also stamped on the transmission too.

Can you please tell us where on the bottom of the block? Is it towards the front on the passenger side?

Gary

round2K_old · November 24, 2006 at 10:57 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Is it towards the front on the passenger side?

Yes. Look near the ground strap connection, just above the pan.

garymcgowan_old · November 24, 2006 at 1:09 PM

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Is it towards the front on the passenger side?

Yes. Look near the ground strap connection, just above the pan.

Thanks, I have looked there but cannot find a VIN. I think HiPoHerb

was saying his was on the bottom of the block surface where you bolt the oil pan. Strange place to put it but I guess anything is possible.

Gary

boss1_old · December 5, 2006 at 3:53 PM

I have never seen a vin on the mating surface, they are always on the rough cast part towards the front of the motor. If you don't see it...look again, scrub harder, get out the super high power flashlight or some silly putty. If it is original...the number will be there.

garymcgowan_old · December 5, 2006 at 4:49 PM

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I have never seen a vin on the mating surface, they are always on the rough cast part towards the front of the motor. If you don't see it...look again, scrub harder, get out the super high power flashlight or some silly putty. If it is original...the number will be there.

I think I can see what appears to be the K faintly. Good suggestion with the silly putty, I will try that this weekend. I'm sure it is original because all the dates check out as follows:

Engine Block Casting Number: 0/C5AE-6015-E

Engine Block Casting Date: 5K30 (10/30/1965)

Engine Assembly Date: 6B17C (Febuary 17, 1966)

Vehicle assembly date: 02C (March 2)

The Heads, Main Caps, Rod Bolts, Hatchet Weight and HIPO balancer all verify as being K Code.

I am going to pull the engine to detail it and the bay. I bet I will find the number then. It is very hard to look at that area with a light.

Thanks for your input.

Gary

round2K_old · December 5, 2006 at 6:17 PM

You can rub chalk over the numbers and wipe it back with your finger to highlight the numbers.

66KGT_old · December 5, 2006 at 11:52 PM

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I have never seen a vin on the mating surface, they are always on the rough cast part towards the front of the motor. If you don't see it...look again, scrub harder, get out the super high power flashlight or some silly putty. If it is original...the number will be there.

I'm a firm believer Ford stamped all k-code blocks at the factory (well, theres always a chance a few slipped by). Here's a pic of my VIN stamping. You can't see it all in the picture and I could barely make it out in person but it's there. Like Rob said scrub and look harder. If you don't find a VIN stamp and the date codes all match up I'd be very surprised.

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Kman_old · December 6, 2006 at 8:42 AM

Sometimes it is also obscured by paint also - paint over a lighter stamping can make it invisible. I had to remove more than a few layers of engine paint to expose the VIN on my block.

Jack

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