Exhaust Manifolds On or Off?

5boltK_old · January 23, 2011 at 10:58 PM

We're getting closer to dropping the engine and tranny in as a unit. We put the exhaust manifolds on as we want pictures of the engine from all sides before its installed. Does it make the install that much more difficult by leaving the hipo manifolds on the engine?

SixT5HiPo · January 23, 2011 at 11:40 PM

The assembly line installed the engine with the manifolds attached. It probably is just as easy for you to do it that way as well.

jwc66k · January 24, 2011 at 12:07 AM

And make sure you use either packing pads or some cardboard to protect the shock towers during installation.

Jim

iowa_old · January 24, 2011 at 7:52 AM

when patrick and i pulled the engine out of his '66 coupe

we had a heck of a time with his 'headers'

we ended up putting a 'dimple' in the distal steering tube!!

the medial arched part of the shock towers were 'cut out'

apparently to accomadate the headers.

we welded these back in with donor material off a junk '66

Q

since we put hipo exhaust on his C code car

will we need to use the hipo clutch bar?

iowa

Edited by - iowa on 01/24/2011 07:53:31

C6ZZKGT · January 24, 2011 at 9:30 AM Official Post

If you are using Hipo exhaust manifolds, the Hipo equalizer bar is your only option. The standard equalizer bar will hit on your "H" pipe as it is below the equalizer bar. The Hipo equalizer bar lower lever has a quick bend in it to clear the "H" pipe.

-Fred-

SixfiveGT · January 24, 2011 at 9:34 AM

Having just installed my HiPo engine this past summer I certainly recommend installing it with the manifolds on. You can wait but it is a real bear to try and install them once the engine is in the car. It can be done but the language can get somewhat colorful as you do it. You will need the HiPo Z bar for your clutch as the HP manifold dumps just about in the middle of the old C code unit.

CharlesTurner · January 24, 2011 at 12:16 PM

I find it easiest to install the engine with the exhaust manifolds on, H-pipe bolted and the trans/bellhousing attached to the motor.

If you're going for concours-correct, the exhaust manifolds would have had engine color over spray, which would be hard to do once the engine is in the car.

iowa_old · January 24, 2011 at 8:52 PM

whoo...

even have the 'H' pipe bolted on

when putting the engine in?......

wow

iowa

CharlesTurner · January 24, 2011 at 10:41 PM

One from about 6 years ago...

http://www.early-mustang.com/charles/vert/3…26_05%20013.jpg

C6ZZKGT · January 24, 2011 at 10:51 PM Official Post

Charles is installing the transmission and engine the same way Ford did it on the assembly line back in the day. They did it in just a few seconds at that time. Unfortunately the video showing this assembly on You Tube has been pulled.

-Fred-

iowa_old · January 25, 2011 at 7:27 AM

i'll have to check and see if there

are other u tube videos of mustang assembly

thanks for info

iowa

CharlesTurner · January 25, 2011 at 11:03 AM

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Charles is installing the transmission and engine the same way Ford did it on the assembly line back in the day. They did it in just a few seconds at that time. Unfortunately the video showing this assembly on You Tube has been pulled.

-Fred-

Based on period photos and that music video of DAP, yes.

Pete Bush_old · January 25, 2011 at 2:18 PM

Took some searching but I found another link to the video here:

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Motor drop is around 1:12 minutes.

jwc66k · January 25, 2011 at 3:08 PM

All you need is a "tall lift" and three workers (not counting the chorus) to slip in the engine as shown. As I don't have a "tall lift", am short two workers (I do pay with beer for non-union slave labor) and my replacement for the chorus is a couple of speakers, I'll go the old fashioned way, transmission installed and exhaust manifolds off, but the assembly line procedure is noted, also the painting room.

Jim

iowa_old · January 25, 2011 at 4:24 PM

i watched this video

and it only took ~20sec to lower the engine

into the bay!!!

iowa

C6ZZKGT · January 25, 2011 at 9:39 PM Official Post

Keep in mind that the engine and trans drop is done over a pit on the assembly line. I built my pit partially just for this purpose as that is how Kar Kraft did Boss 429's which I am doing as well. The pit makes it possible to have the trans drop far below the body making it easy to level off the whole assembly without interference.

-Fred-

C6ZZKGT · January 25, 2011 at 9:41 PM Official Post

Pete, Great job finding another copy of that video on You Tube!!

-Fred-

Pete Bush_old · January 26, 2011 at 6:30 AM

Glad to help, Fred. You guys are a great resource!

There's so much I've learned, and continue to learn, from the video. I wish there were some way to save it to my PC.

Pete

C6ZZKGT · January 26, 2011 at 11:39 AM Official Post

Pete, I was able to save it to my PC. There is a link in the upper right hand corner of the You Tube video to download it.

-Fred-

SixfiveGT · January 26, 2011 at 12:09 PM

Pete: If you have realplayer on your computer you can save this video to your machine... simply right click on the video and a drop down menu will appear that gives you the option to save. If you don't have realplayer you can down load a free copy from the net. I just finished downloading the video and it worked great..... Thanks for finding this and sharing it with the group.

Edited by - sixfiveGT on 01/26/2011 12:10:50

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