65 Engine Bay Concours Restoration

May be Tony Gregory's Hipo book? may be some pictures of other members cars?

there may be some photos here that may be helpful to you.

http://www.nvsaac.com/gallery/1965_main.htm

Z. Ray

Be VERY CAREFUL about copying from pictures/magazines as most are incorrect (including mine!). If you are going to copy from a picture or so, make sure it is from the right car (there maybe only a handful).

There are many variables that go into how you detail the car, particularly those that are unique to the assembly plant. Be careful detailing your car from photos of other "restored" cars as frequently people choose to copy incorrect details from others. Unfortunately, this only serves to perpetuate the problem. Do your research, and if you are in doubt, don't duplicat a detail you can't confirm.

Would agree with other comments here - DON"T IMHO copy much of what you see in magazines and restored cars. Instead seek out unrestored cars built at the same plant same time. You would be surprised of the differences - small as they may be - that are there.

So to provide any assistance the first question would be when and where was the car built?

Edited by - J_Speegle on 02/20/2010 20:09:48

The engine specific details should be the same as all the other engines from that period so I'll let you source that through the book and others here.

Since its am Aug 65 San Jose car the difference in the engine compartment are as follows.

One of the differences we see between the plant is the finish of the black engine compartment black, over the body color, at the rear edge of the fender flange at the cowl. Unlike other plants this was a soft edge (not masked off nor typically finished with a brush) The vast majority of the time this soft line, lines up with the front edge of the cowl to firewall pinch weld.

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Of course all the typical details about the engine compartment should be there like

1- Brake master cylinder and cap painted semi-gloss black

2- Brake lines, electrical connections, steering column, heater, master cylinder, fuel lines and related parts were in place (no engine ground though)when the sealant was sprayed around/over all openings and mounting points on the fire wall. Typically it appears that the worker moved the wand from one point to the next - never shutting it off. Sort of a connect the dots pattern

3- Fender to inner fender sealant was typically applied (dark grey or black) to the very outer edge of the fender lip (inner fender) so none should be visible once the fender is installed except for a somewhat small bead along where the VIN is visible (approx 3/8" bead along that edge).

4- Hood hinges and springs are of course phosphate and oil. Often we find sealant between the hood and the hinges as well as the hinges and inner fenders on 65 SJ cars

5- No chalking strip or "dumb - dumb" around heater hoses at the firewall IMHO

6- Looks like that period typically used the smooth fender and inner fender (front spring covers) washers

7- Service decal examples

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Since Charles has had a few of these recently (little earlier in the year by about 5 months so there are some differences) - he may have some details to add.

Edited by - J_Speegle on 02/22/2010 02:25:27

Hey Tony,

I am sure Charles will chime in but here is his build blog for the 65 K convertible he is doing now. Some good stuff.

http://65kresto.blogspot.com/

mike

Hi Tony , quite interesting reading your Build Date , My car was Built Exact same day and Plant and is a GT , is yours Wimbledon White by any chance and a fastback .

Shane

Guys,

What about the steering box being "blacked out" on top? Charles you show this in your blog, but I seem to be getting conflicting answers on the Shelbys that were built at San Jose in the spring of '65? THis seems to be a major detailing difference for these cars anyway...

I found the steering box blackout on 3 different San Jose cars built around the end of January, early February '65. I feel confident in my examination of the parts that they were originally done like this. I have not studied any later or earlier examples to make any definitive claims. I will say that I also found the same thing on a May '65 Dearborn car.

MCA rules simply state they can be either way.

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Hi Tony , thats amazing , exact same car Details , i will dig out some pics from 3 yrs ago when it was still in the States , i am in process at moment of Pieceing back together after a 3 year Resto , I also did my Steering Box like Caspian , very Helpful in Resto.

Any chance of seeing pics of your Original Kar.

Shane
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Hi Tony , found pics , thats an awesome looking car , they do looking stunning in the White even though im Not a fan of White Cars , wouldnt mind seeing more pics of car sometime if you are able too , i did wonder if my car was a factory GT , it does have a Factory Cut Out in the Dash for the 5 Dial dash , as seen as it was built on same day and same Plant as yours i Guess that kinda Confirms things.

Shane