Posts by J_Speegle_old

J_Speegle_old · Build Sheet(s) J_Speegle_old February 6, 2011 at 8:48 PM

Interesting find - would love to see a scan.

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The most interesting part of the two sheets is the SCHED DATE box. On the Yellow/White one it says 07K, on the Pinkish one it says 30K.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

Remember this (scheduled build date - projected build date) is only a guess on the part of a worker in the office.

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More likely the original "guess" of build date got changed for some unknown reason.

Don't believe cars were built then just sat around waiting for engine - not that amount of free space available from my understanding. Easier just to wait to start them if there was a shortage at San Jose

Keep an eye out for a smaller piece of paper (approx 2 x 4") with your cars VIN and a small amount of additional info

J_Speegle_old · Primer / Floor question J_Speegle_old February 6, 2011 at 8:23 PM

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Found the same on quite a few San Jose cars built around that time period. If you clean the bottom of the front frame rails under the engine bay, you will most likely find red-oxide there................

Agree there is a somewhat short period where San Jose choose a different product for the floor pans before returning to the red oxide

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There have been discussions as to why the bottom of the front is different from the belly of the car. It mainly has to do with the belly portion being sprayed with fixtures and the front being done by hand.

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J_Speegle_old · Rare 66 K-Code? Need help! J_Speegle_old February 6, 2011 at 8:19 PM

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As far as I know, the S/J built cars did not have build sheets.

They used them - just didn't use them (attach them) to the sub-assembles like the other plants So less of them at the car to get thrown/left in the cars.

J_Speegle_old · trunk undercoating J_Speegle_old February 6, 2011 at 8:16 PM

Products used are as different as the restorers. Unfortunately no current product that I know of reacts with the top coat (exterior color) like the original. Add to this that allot of current legal products are difficult to get to the thickness of the original stuff since second and third coats (to build the thickness and texture) many times dissolves earlier coats

Guns to apply the products are pretty pricey and can effect which product you choose. Some options include the Wurth product, Fusion, Sludge.....

At least 50% of a correct job is the technique (as usual) So look at a number of original examples from you car's assembly plant and build period.

It's a start

J_Speegle_old · Tie Down Plates J_Speegle_old November 10, 2010 at 10:30 PM

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Charles:

Regarding your comment on appropriate finish for concours judging, am I reading correctly that some were found painted, while others were not? Is this another example of Ford's consistency in manufacturing?

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Often a differences in supplier - so the next question would be - Where was your Mustang built? (for the correct response)

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J_Speegle_old · SeKond Time Around J_Speegle_old October 23, 2010 at 12:42 AM

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.......... I uncovered these markings on the core support. I know about the rotation number, the paint code and trim code. What does the circled 'BL' mean? ....

First question would be - Where and when was the car built since markings (same ones at times) and their meanings differed between plants and even month to month according to plant managers

Bases on what you mentioned so far I'm guessing Dearborn?

J_Speegle_old · Holman Moody J_Speegle_old October 23, 2010 at 12:38 AM

Agree that we need to know which engines your referring to.

Have that one picture I posted showing them in front of stacks of new 289 complete engines at thew warehouse. All of those appear to be 65 non- K codes (thin balancers, 4V's and tach drive dist)

J_Speegle_old · Radiator date location J_Speegle_old October 23, 2010 at 12:35 AM

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A friend of mine just gave me an original radiator out of a 66 car.

Were should I look to find date stamp or any other ID numbers?

Which plant?

Dearborn/NJ - would be on one of the side straps

San Jose - would be the top of the top tank passenger side

J_Speegle_old · Paint seuqence J_Speegle_old October 23, 2010 at 12:32 AM

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two questions...

WHAT IS ORGANGE PEELING?

is there a similiar explantion on paint on this forum?

Here is an example of what it looks like

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J_Speegle_old · Replacement carpet fit and quality J_Speegle_old April 26, 2010 at 10:28 PM

Last two I've purchased were massed back and IMHO I would buy them again given no new offerings or options than what is currently available

J_Speegle_old · HiPo cam vs. GT350 cam??? J_Speegle_old April 14, 2010 at 9:59 PM

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GT350 Street cars used the HiPo cam while the Race models

got another cam.

/Bo

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J_Speegle_old · A Code upgrade to K Code? J_Speegle_old April 4, 2010 at 9:47 PM

Love the part about the change somehow being notated on the gas tank. Sounds like someone took a Corvette detail and migrated it over to another make and model.

Sorry - never IMHO happened

J_Speegle_old · Vehicle Warranty Number J_Speegle_old April 4, 2010 at 9:43 PM

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We know that the date on the door tag could be off, typically, by three weeks in either (earlier or later) direction.

The greatest gap (though very unusual) I've heard about was on a later car and it was off by 4 months

Best IMHO to use the stamping dates on the unibody sheet metal and use other examples (same plant) to get an idea of when it might have been built. Not easy nor a quick answer

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J_Speegle_old · Tail Shaft Stencil J_Speegle_old April 2, 2010 at 4:27 PM

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Hello,

this is what I found on my Kar:

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Can you tell use more (when and where the car was likely built) so we can use that to identify and evaluate the markings?

Thanks

J_Speegle_old · 1965 alternator markings J_Speegle_old March 10, 2010 at 6:40 PM

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Jeff,

Probably the reason DeadNutsOn stamp their alternator twice.

Were you their advisor? Just bought an alternator for my 65.

/Bo

I share information with allot of the places. Not sure if that is the reason but I'm pretty sure I've provide some to Jack - his choice was the final one of course

J_Speegle_old · 1965 alternator markings J_Speegle_old March 9, 2010 at 10:43 PM

Have seen originals stamped twice - what would be the bottom as well as the top. Though I don't think they did this one every one

J_Speegle_old · STARTER MOTOR PAINT DETAILING J_Speegle_old March 8, 2010 at 10:05 PM

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Thanks Jeff , that will do me , i take it Starter never had a Stamp Upon its housing.

Thanks , Shane

I believe many were stamped with an ink stamp during the 64-67 period. Can't promise everyone was

J_Speegle_old · STARTER MOTOR PAINT DETAILING J_Speegle_old March 8, 2010 at 12:15 AM

Think this is the best picture (have a bunch represents what was the practice. All black except faded (just overspray) at the mounting pad to insure a good ground

Hope this helps

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J_Speegle_old · Original Ford 66 Firewall insulation J_Speegle_old March 4, 2010 at 8:53 PM

To help others and you find it a good home - what plant is the pad from?

Since you mentioned Shelby I'm guessing it's a San Jose pad ??

J_Speegle_old · 1965 alternator markings J_Speegle_old February 28, 2010 at 8:23 PM

Since we're discussing details - the date stamp appears to have been placed on the rear casting before the alternator was even assembled. So it appears to have more to do with the casting and making of that once section rather than the finished alternator - since we can find NOS rear housing with the date on them

Just sharing