Iowa's 5F09K project

C6ZZKGT · November 15, 2010 at 11:47 PM Official Post

As far as I can tell from your description, the oblong hole is the one used for the odd shaped tie downs that tow trucks use that are not actual hooks.

-Fred-

iowa_old · November 29, 2010 at 7:04 PM

been away tring to get wings in boston!!

also we are converting my son's '66 to a T5 trannie!!

2 Q's

would a '66 C code 289 2V use a 6 bolt Bell H

and would my '65 K code use a 6 bolt as well

thanks

iowa

jwc66k · November 29, 2010 at 8:24 PM

The 66 would most likely use a 6 bolt engine/bell housing, the 65 depends on the date.

Jim

iowa_old · November 29, 2010 at 9:42 PM

i always ask a Q and then

think to look in the HiPo bible.

your right, only pre 8-20-64's used the 5 bolt Bell H!

all the rest used the 6 bolt.

thanks

iowa

CharlesTurner · November 29, 2010 at 10:46 PM

The 8/20/64 date is a generalization. The change from 5 bolt to 6 bolt 289's happened at the same time as the change from generators to alternators, which was at the beginning of the "normal" 1965 model year startup. It's the 64.5 vs. 65 thing...

iowa_old · November 30, 2010 at 7:32 AM

Since my my son is going to the T5

we are thinking about useing the T5 Bell H

so I would then use his old one on my K car.

my K was built Dec 19, so should have a 6 bolt Bell H

iowa

iowa_old · December 26, 2010 at 6:37 PM

we pulled patricks engine today

the flywheel is a C5AE 6380-E 4 9L12 C77E-A

the bellhousing is C5TA-6394-A 68r8

he's going to use a new Bell H for his T5 conversion

so will use his old Bell H! in my K car

haven't spent much time on my K car

as we've been working on his T5 project

now he's going to clean up the engine and

engine compartment

then we'll put it all back together!!

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Edited by - iowa on 12/26/2010 18:43:55

C6ZZKGT · December 27, 2010 at 8:35 AM Official Post

The C5TA bellhousing is incorrect for your K car as it is for the larger 164 tooth flywheel. Your 65 Hipo takes a 157 or 160 tooth flywheel. The C5AE flywheel in his car is a 164 tooth flywheel. That flywheel is larger in diameter and may not be compatible with the bellhousing that you are planning to use for your T5 transmission. If you are planning to use a flywheel that was used with a T5 transmission, they have different balancing characteristics than your 1966 289.

-Fred-

iowa_old · December 27, 2010 at 9:06 AM

hmmmm....

i thot the 6 bolt Bell H

was the same for my Kcar?

and i've never figured out

what, or how a flywheel is balanced

iowa

iowa_old · December 28, 2010 at 9:04 AM

your right

these are too big for my K car

s.o. must have tampered w my son's '66

soooo.......

i'll be needing a Bell H for my '65 (12/12/64)

anyone have one?

thanks

iowa

zray · December 28, 2010 at 9:47 AM

do you already have a T-5 bell housing for your sons project ? I have one if you are looking.

I also have a Bell housing that would work for your K, but am not crazy about selling. Have you tried a local junk yard? The stock bell housings are plentiful, but if you can't find one close to home let me know...

Z.

C6ZZKGT · December 28, 2010 at 12:18 PM Official Post

Dave, I just sent you a PM on your bell housing.

-Fred-

iowa_old · December 29, 2010 at 9:10 PM

when i bought my K kar

the intake manifold had an ear broken off.

i picked up my OH'ed engine today

and right off noted that there is

an empty space between this intake manifold edge and the head.

in comparison there is a rectangular

build up or reinforced area on my son's 289's engine.

is this void on every 65 K car

and was this the reason this ear was broken off?

(BTW i had this ear welded back on to keep the

original intake)

thanks

iowa

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Edited by - iowa on 12/29/2010 21:11:26

C6ZZKGT · December 30, 2010 at 12:12 AM Official Post

Dave, That open area is common to all 289 heads that I have seen whether they are standard or Hipo. It is very common to break off an aluminum intake at that point as people tend to overtighten them. Does the filled in area on your sons heads appear to be a modification?

-Fred-

iowa_old · December 30, 2010 at 9:27 AM

by modification

do you mean that a piece has been welded on?

we recently removed the engine from my son's car

and are amazed at how many things 'Bubba' did to it.

picked up my K code engine yesterday

and here we are by our engines!!

iowa

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Edited by - iowa on 12/30/2010 09:33:55

cobraboy · December 30, 2010 at 6:24 PM

Fantastic pic

You should blow up a copy and put it on your garage wall.

I have a 17 year old son. He is a real petrol head. He likes more modern stuff. Unfortunatly he is a full time wheelchair user.

We would be in the garage together up to all kinds of mischief if he were able.

I envy you. Enjoy your time together.

iowa_old · January 1, 2011 at 3:32 PM

here are the engine mounts that attach to the frame

these are the ones on my son's '66 mustang.

i believe these are wrong for his year of car.

are these the same ones that the HiPo kars used,

at least the lower mount to the shock tower?

thanks

iowa

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Edited by - iowa on 01/01/2011 15:33:43

jwc66k · January 1, 2011 at 4:41 PM

There's a change over date of 11/1/65 for 289 engine mounts, and I think that date applies to HP mounts as well. The 65-66 (early) HP mount has a special large bolt that runs through the insulators and end "plates", yours is a standard type. Reproduction insulators are available for all. On my Oct 65 build 66 hardtop, I converted to the later style. Be advised that 67 Mustang mounts and insulators are unique to 67 only, 68-70 small block mounts will work in 64-66 as a conversion.

Jim

iowa_old · January 1, 2011 at 5:17 PM

so we would need the insulator type shown

in the left picture above?

is so, i ordered the wrong ones

the ones i ordered kind of sit in a saddle

which two 'ears' that a bolt goes thru

anywhay, are the lower mounts the same a the hipo's?

iowa

jwc66k · January 1, 2011 at 7:21 PM

Insulator - yes. For early 66 (and 64-65), there are a right hand and left hand types, later 66 (and 68 on) are interchangable.

Lower mount type - no.

Jim

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