Restoring a 64 K Code Fairlane

  • Calling on all HIPO Fairlane experts.


    I know this is primarly a Mustang site but I hope you folks don't mind me asking a few HIPO Fairlane questions now and then.


    My 1964 HIPO Fairlane is scheduled to be delivered late Friday or early Saturday and I want to completely restore it. The first thing I want to do is get it ready for an original paint job. Did they use Acrylic Enamel then and was the interior floors and dash painted the same color as the body of the car? How about the underbody, was it painted with red oxide? The car was assembled in Kansas. I'm sure each plant did some things differently.


    I'm going to pull the engine and drive train and while the body is being done I will work on detailing the engine and drive line. I'm told the engine was recently rebuilt but they painted the block blue. From what I have found, the engine should be black and the valve covers gold. Is that correct?


    I have a new correct carb that I have bid in on ebay. Hopefully I will get it. If I don't, Pony Carbs has one. I wonder what fuel pump they used? I should be able to find this out in Bob's book.


    Any help given towards answering these questions will be appreciated.


    Thanks,


    Gary

  • It's been too long, but the undercarriage on my 64 Fairlane Sports Coupe was red primer and the dash was interior color, red, not the exterior color, black. I remember the first part of the VIN was 4K47K and I think that's Kansas. I'll root around and see if I got some old pictures of the car. What I do remember, it was a 'Goat' (GTO) killer.

    Jim

  • My 63 has a red oxide under body. The ext. paint is enamel. The interior paint on my car looks to be laquer. The engine should be black and valve covers gold. On a 63 the air cleaner top is gold too. Not sure about a 64.


    Congratulations on your purchase. If it had been closer I would have been interested.


    Larry

  • Thanks for the info Jim. The first part of my VIN is like yours, 4K47K. The door tag reads as follows:


    Body: 65B

    Color: X

    Trim: 86

    Assembly Date: 03A

    DSL: 71

    Axle: 8

    Trans: 5


    On my car the interior is Black so the dash should be black. If you could post some pics that would be great.


    Gary

  • Larry, I think the engine and valve cover color on the 64 is probably the same as it is on a 63. I will research this further to be sure. I'm not sure on the air cleaner top for the 64 either.


    So, I think we can all agree the undercarriage should be red oxide. Is it painted like the Mustang? What I mean is, the red oxide goes up to the bottom of the engine bay.


    Does anyone know where I can get a generator? I don't think my car has one on it.


    Thanks for the help Larry and if you could post some pics of your car I would appreciate it.


    Gary


    P.S. Thanks for the congratulations Larry. I currently have two K code Mustangs and I cherish them both. But, my life long love has been for a 64 Fairlane HIPO.


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    Does anyone know where I can get a generator? I don't think my car has one on it.


    Thanks for the help Larry and if you could post some pics of your car I would appreciate it.


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    If you arn't a member yet, now would be a good time to join FCA, Fairlane Club of America. They have a web sight just for members with parts for sale/wanted section. The web sight alone is worth the cost to join. The generator may be avalible through Napa. The hard part may be getting the brackets.


    For more picts of my Fairlane, click on the link below my sig. It will take you to a article on my 63 in the may 04 Legendary Fords Magazine. A few things may be strange to a K code mustang owners, I know they were to me. 63 K codes came with a automatic choke and a dumby vacume advance. Not sure about 64s.


    Larry


    Edited by - 63Kcode on 08/16/2007 12:33:01

  • Larry, I have already joined FCA. For some reason I can't post but Bob is trying to help me with a fix.


    I will give NAPA a try on the generator. I think the hard part to find will be the pully.


    I just finished looking at your car and I must say I am totally impressed and a bit envious. I hope to have mine looking as good as your HIPO.


    Thanks, Gary


    Edited by - garymcgowan on 08/16/2007 13:13:52

  • Keep an eye out on e-bay for the generator pulley, I've seen a couple over the years. Also check the Galaxie website's as I believe the 406 and early 427's used the same generator pulley. Mine came off a 406. I've had several of them (pulleys) over the years but sold them. Single stage enamel paint on the exterior. I used glasurit by BASF and it still looks like it rolled out of the paint booth even after 20 years. Red oxide on the underbody. Gold valve covers and air cleaner with chrome dealer option available in 64. Let me know what other parts you might need, I still have a few items left but most of the good stuff (hipo) is long gone. Terry

  • The 406 and 427 generator pulleys are both of the same larger diameter as the Hipo 289 but are not the same.

    -Fred-

    65 Koupe early San Jose Phoenician Yellow 4 speed
    66 GT Koupe Dearborn Blue 4 speed
    66 KGT San Jose fastback pony interior Silver Frost 4 speed
    64 Falcon sedan delivery 289 4 speed
    65 Ranchero 289 4 speed
    66 Corvette roadster 427/425 4 speed

  • Well yesterday was a great shopping day. I got an original fan and distributer with the correct dates for my Fairlane. I got a bid in for a standard generator with all the mounting brackets. I think the brackets from any early 289 will work. Now, all I need to do is find a pully. Would just a standard pully work as long as I keep the RPM's down? That would allow me to complete the engine and drive the car until I find the correct pully.


    Spoke with the transport driver yesterday and we are on schedule for a delivery of early Friday evening or Saturday morning.


    Gary

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    I contacted him and the generator was sold with the engine. Thanks anyway for the tip.


    Gary

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    Keep an eye out on e-bay for the generator pulley, I've seen a couple over the years. Also check the Galaxie website's as I believe the 406 and early 427's used the same generator pulley. Mine came off a 406. I've had several of them (pulleys) over the years but sold them. Single stage enamel paint on the exterior. I used glasurit by BASF and it still looks like it rolled out of the paint booth even after 20 years. Red oxide on the underbody. Gold valve covers and air cleaner with chrome dealer option available in 64. Let me know what other parts you might need, I still have a few items left but most of the good stuff (hipo) is long gone. Terry

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    Thanks Terry. When you get a chance let me know what you have and if I need any of it I will let you know.


    Larry, can you tell me the diameter of the pully on your generator? I was thinking, maybe the one off an alternator would work. Ford was known back then for just putting new numbers on some items and using them for different applications. If that will work it will at least allow me to continue on with my project until something better comes along.


    Thanks,


    Gary

  • Larry, could you do me a big favor and make a post on FCA for me to see if anyone there has the generator and pulley? I joined but still cannot post in the forums. I can read everything just can't post.


    Thanks,


    Gary

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    ... the first part of the VIN was 4K47K and I think that's Kansas. I do remember, it was a 'Goat' (GTO) killer.

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    That's correct. "K" is the Kansas Assembly Plant code in the VIN, and the "47" is the Fairlane 500 Sports Coupe 2 door code. While not generally known, the stock 289 HiPo Fairlanes were able to dust off many of the more famous "muscle cars" of the Sixties all day long!

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    Thanks for the info Jim. The first part of my VIN is like yours, 4K47K. The door tag reads as follows:


    Body: 65B

    Color: X

    Trim: 86

    Assembly Date: 03A

    DSL: 71

    Axle: 8

    Trans: 5


    On my car the interior is Black.


    Gary


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    The assembly date is early 1964, and probably calls for an automatic choke and a single exhaust. I think the Fairlanes switched to a manual choke along with the Arvinode dual exhaust system around April, 1964. Double check with Bob Mannel to confirm this.


    I still have some pieces of an original black interior for a '64 Fairlane Sports Coupe in my attic.


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    Now, all I need to do is find a pully. Would just a standard pully work as long as I keep the RPM's down? That would allow me to complete the engine and drive the car until I find the correct pully.


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    I've seen a reproduction HiPo generator pulley listed on eBay several times. Apparently someone tooled up to make copies. They're made from solid billet stock and are painted black. They were advertised to be extremely accurate with no runout. I've watched several relistings from the seller, and every auction ended with no bids placed. I think they were listed with an opening bid of around $150.00.


    The regular pulley will work fine until you locate the correct HiPo piece, and I wouldn't worry about an occasional buzz up to the redline. Good luck with your project. It seems as though you're off to a good start already.

  • Gene - Thanks for all that info. After I inventory all the parts I will let you know what I am missing or needs replacing. That is if you want to get rid of your items.


    If you see the HIPO repo pulley again please let me know. Do you happen to remember his ebay name?


    I think you are correct about the automatic choke and single exhaust. Lot cheaper to replace that carb then the HIPO Mustang 4100. I really hate to have single exhaust but I am determined to put it back as close to original as possible.


    Thanks again for all the info.


    Gary

  • George - WOW, thanks for that link. I saved every picture on there of that car. I hope mine comes out as nice as that. I love the burgandy with the beige interior. Great combo.


    Gary

  • My pulley is 4 9/32 inches. The single exaust is not that bad. It's 2 1/2 inches in dia. and has a unique sound. The guy I bought my 63 from was going to change to duels. Till he found a C3 part # on the Y-pipe and realized most of the exaust is original.


    It's great to see so much excitement over a Fairlane here.


    Larry


    Edited by - 63Kcode on 08/17/2007 17:29:48

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