$5,500,000 Mustang

jwc66k · February 20, 2008 at 9:19 PM

A friend sent me this about the 'first' Mustang sold - to a customer thru a dealer - a 1964 1/2 convertible. It appears to be - legit?

http://classicmusclecars.com/cgi-bin/swrm/a…ailable&sb=year

The top site - http://classicmusclecars.com/

Jim

raccol · February 21, 2008 at 5:16 AM

Good luck with that price. Didn't Shelby's personal Cobra go for $5 million? A documented history vice a presumed history, don't see it happening.

CSXEng_old · February 21, 2008 at 6:26 AM

I know who the owner was to that car and I worked on it back in the 80's. The front end was in an accident and was replaced with NOS sheet metal. Some kid hit a pole with it in Florida. I had done the re-wiring under the dash. There is no heater option neither. Wow! It's good to see it again. I wonder if the person is still alive that I helped with the work. I might have pictures of it at a show where our club attended in Hollywood Florida.

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oscart_old · February 21, 2008 at 6:35 AM

Hmm. I thought the first Mustang sold to the public was a pre-sale date Mustang that was on display on the east coast and accidentally sold by an eager sales person to a pilot. Ford eventually bought Mustang #1 back.

CSXEng_old · February 21, 2008 at 6:44 AM

Number 100001, now on display at the Ford Museum, was the first of those pre production units to be built. It was originally assigned to Ford of Canada District Sales Office, to be displayed at Ford of Canada showrooms coast to coast, then be returned to Dearborn. It was accidently sold by an over-zealous salesman to a pilot in Newfoundland, Canada. It was later recovered by Ford, restored, and put in the museum.

SixT5HiPo · February 21, 2008 at 9:20 AM

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A friend sent me this about the 'first' Mustang sold - to a customer thru a dealer - a 1964 1/2 convertible.

Wow...I guess we're going to be seeing more of this kind of stuff as time passes. Let's see, how about the "first" fastback? Or, the "first" red Mustang coupe (or 'vert, or fb), maybe the "first" yellow Mustang 4 speed coupe sold on a Monday, etc., etc...<img src=images/icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>

CharlesTurner · February 21, 2008 at 10:59 AM

This car was discussed at length on VMF a month or so ago.

Basically, the seller bases their claims on the fact that no other earlier unit number has surfaced to date and that no other car with an invoice dated earlier has surfaced. Not to say that either one doesn't exist... they just say since theirs is the earliest convertible unit number KNOWN and earliest documented invoice KNOWN, that it has to be the first convertible that was not a pre-production model and the first one sold to the public.

A serious oversight with this logic is the fact that without documentation from Ford motor company, they have absolutely no way of knowing what order that car came off the assembly line. The consecutive unit number has absolutely no bearing on that, it's simply a consecutive "order" number.

There were quite a few cars on-hand for the April 17th intro date, something on the order of 20,000 if I remember right. To say there isn't one with an earlier invoice date is simply grabbing at straws.

It's a really neat car and has some value from being an early production car, but their claims cannot be proven and most certainly do not justify the premium they have placed on the value of the car.

Edited by - caspian65 on 02/21/2008 11:01:22

SixT5HiPo · February 21, 2008 at 12:20 PM

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Basically, the seller bases their claims on the fact that no other earlier unit number has surfaced to date...Not to say that either one doesn't exist... they just say since theirs is the earliest convertible unit number KNOWN and earliest documented invoice KNOWN, that it has to be the first convertible that was not a pre-production model and the first one sold to the public.

If another earlier Mustang does exist, and can be found, will they refund the $5,500,000 to the buyer of this one?

After over 40 years, even if there is an earlier car that was sold say, even 5 or 10 minutes before this one was, it may be long gone at this point, so who really cares? How do you prove which car was sold "first" anyway?

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Exactly right...

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There were quite a few cars on-hand for the April 17th intro date, something on the order of 20,000 if I remember right. To say there isn't one with an earlier invoice date is simply grabbing at straws.

It's a really neat car and has some value from being an early production car, but their claims cannot be proven and most certainly do not justify the premium they have placed on the value of the car.

Yeah, especially since this one was reportedly wrapped around a pole in a front end collision by the second owner...

64pony_old · February 21, 2008 at 7:21 PM

Very strange that I have 100078, is that not prior to the one listed in the ad? sounds like someone does not know everything about early 64.5's.

CharlesTurner · February 21, 2008 at 8:38 PM

You have to read their ad carefully. They are not claiming the earliest VIN, they are claiming the earliest production convertible. They basically are excluding any pre-production cars.

Shelby6t5 · February 27, 2008 at 7:36 AM

Not to hijack this thread, but a friend is buying a convertable 5F08F1019xx, White, red gut and a black top, all the 64.5 stuff intact.

At that time in production, how many cars a day were coming off of that assembly line?

He gave me a date code of 180, which I am not sure is correct, all of his other door tag info was a perfect match.

Mike

jwc66k · February 27, 2008 at 9:02 AM

The date code should read '18C', March 18, 1964.

Jim

SixT5HiPo · February 27, 2008 at 11:00 AM

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...a friend is buying a convertable 5F08F1019xx...

At that time in production, how many cars a day were coming off of that assembly line?

When regular production started in March, Dearborn built 867 Mustangs and Fairlanes the first week, increased to 1,955 units the second week, and continued increasing until it reached a peak of around 1,320/day when efficiency maxed out.

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