67 K-code Restoration

qballll_old · October 10, 2007 at 10:53 AM

This is a continued topic from the general diskussion thread, I was asked to move it here for a better fit on the forum.

Update on the Kar:

The picture tell the story of were we are in the project. These pictures are not for the faint of heart here she is naked, stripped for your viewing.

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In Picture #3 you can see the firewall has a lot of work to be done. Time was not kind to the horse, nor was the Michigan salty winter roads. You can also see that the new door hinges are installed. Floors and inner frame rails are next on the list.

We are still in need of pictures of the front markings on the sway bar (the green and yellow marks) if some one can help. The hole front suspension is off and is being rebuilt.

As for the engineering numbers on the rear springs the are hard to read:

C7 ZA 73Z

5556AM

Again this is very hard to read and maybe wrong. A question for all does the rear spring painted or phosphate and oil?

The Kar was delivered with PB. And has what we believe is the original engine (no vin on the block but all k parts and correct date codes) The trans. is a four speed, no vin correct date again. Any other help in the restoration, thoughts insight would be greatly appreciated.

I have also found a site that other maybe interested in: http://www.midcomustang.com/frameandfloor.shtml . They have line drawnigs of the body specifications of the 1965-1970 Mustang frame and under body platform. The measurements provided are used to ensure that the Mustang unibody is square, and the body mounting points are in the correct relative position to the under carriage and frame support members. Take a look.

jwc66k · October 10, 2007 at 11:28 AM

Those dimensions are documented in the Shop Manuals. I don't know if they are common for all the years that are claimed. In any case, keep up the good work on your project.

Jim

66gtk · October 10, 2007 at 1:18 PM

I like the broomstick jack stand. Where do I get one of those?

J_Speegle_old · October 10, 2007 at 10:24 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>We are still in need of pictures of the front markings on the sway bar (the green and yellow marks) if some one can help. The hole front suspension is off and is being rebuilt. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

This would not be the standard front sway bar marking for a 67 K code Mustang but do remember that this car was ordered with the very rare Comp Suspension.

Here is a picture of and example of that marking on an original car. Have seen the yellow slightly brighter on some other examples but the green has been consistent

The fuel pump will provide correct orientation

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>As for the engineering numbers on the rear springs the are hard to read: C7 ZA 73Z 5556AM

Again this is very hard to read and maybe wrong. A question for all does the rear spring painted or phosphate and oil?<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

"AM" were used on these applications I would guess that since you state they were hard to read rust is an issue on many parts of your car.

Originally they were heat treated with natural untreated bare steel clamps. The heat treating produced a very dark metal that can be reproduced by using some of the quick phosphating materials now available. But you do not want to truly phosphate the springs as it will damage the strengh.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>The Kar was delivered with PB. And has what we believe is the original engine (no vin on the block but all k parts and correct date codes) The trans. is a four speed, no vin correct date again. Any other help in the restoration, thoughts insight would be greatly appreciated.

Where and when was the car assembled? the lack of VIN on either is pretty odd since this had been a practice for three years prior to 67 on one of these items and less on the other.

Thoughts/insight?

Spend allot of time doing the unibody correctly - can no stress this enough

kgtman_old · October 11, 2007 at 9:44 AM

qballll,

This thread has pictures of my rear leaf spring numbers. BTW, my car is a San Jose '67 KGT with the Competition Handling Package option.

http://www.hipomustang.com/hpmx/topic.asp…rms=competition

Hope this helps!

Tom

qballll_old · October 11, 2007 at 10:07 AM

Thanks you all for the help.

J. Speegle, thanks for the picture and we are trying to get the underside done correct. The build date I believe was May, 67'.

I'll got the actual date here soon. Our thought on the rear leaf springs are to replace the middle springs or have them resprong.

Tom, Thanks again for your help. I do have your pictures saved on the computer.

I'll update the progress soon with more picture.

Qman · October 11, 2007 at 10:49 AM

qballl, just got back from the suspension shop on the corner of M-81 and I-75. They looked up the correct arch for those rear springs and will re-arch them and put in new bushings and re clip them(I provide the clips)for $80.00.

See ya this weekend.

J_Speegle_old · October 11, 2007 at 1:44 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>

Thanks you all for the help.

J. Speegle, thanks for the picture and we are trying to get the underside done correct. The build date I believe was May, 67'.

I'll got the actual date here soon. Our thought on the rear leaf springs are to replace the middle springs or have them resprong.

Tom, Thanks again for your help. I do have your pictures saved on the computer.

Sounds fine.... I've responded to you PM.

Since it was a May car... was it delivered (71 -72 DSO) to Calif?

Edited by - J_Speegle on 10/11/2007 13:48:19

qballll_old · October 13, 2007 at 4:31 PM

Update:

The inner rockers and torque boxes are in. A hole new floor is being prepped. Still a lot of work to be done, and a lot of money to be spent.

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Driver side is double stamped, passenger side one stamped.

Front passenger side suspension is temporally partially back together.

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Question for all, the next picture is of the original floor pan that was removed. Note the four holes the larger hole is front center on both sides, I have not seen this on other 67' was this original from the factory? NPD does not have a cover for a hole this size.

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jwc66k · October 13, 2007 at 5:22 PM

That is the correct hole size used only on 67 and 68 convertibles. The part number is 377865-S8. It is a metal plug 3 1/4 inches in diameter and 27/64 inches in height to crimp in place. I don't know the thickness of the material used but it is plated steel. You might try http://www.perogie.com/ or http://www.mustangokla.com/ to see if they have any.

Jim

C6ZZKGT · October 13, 2007 at 8:40 PM Official Post

You are doing some very nice work on this Kar.

-Fred-

qballll_old · October 20, 2007 at 10:14 AM

Thanks for your help Jim, unable to find the part but good to know that this is original. Any one know were I might find this drain plug-(3 1/4")? See picture above.

Fred, Thanks for the kind words. We'll keep posting new pictures as progress/money let us.

I know all of you like to see pictures so here you go.

http://www.seriouswheels.com/cars-f.htm

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qballll/qman.

J_Speegle_old · October 20, 2007 at 9:45 PM

The steel convertible seat nut plugs are difficult to find and for some reason have not been reproduced.

Thanks for posting pictures as you tackle this project

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