64 1/2 question

Steve,

My "C" code has a draft tube and it's an Oct,1964 Fastback. I don't know if HiPo's were different.

Dave V.

According to some documentation I have, the beginning of Mustang production in '64 had predominantly PCV systems, but later in 64.5 the road draft tube became widely used. It was used into the Fall of '64 as noted in the other post. I had a '65 C code convertible with a scheduled build date of Oct 31, 1964 that had a road draft tube.

We do know that there was a special road draft tube made to fit around the hi-po exhaust manifolds. This supports the fact that Ford actually did use them on hi-po's.

Ford "reintroduced" road draft tubes around May of 1964 on all 260 and 289 engines, including the 289 High Performance. These "non emission reduction" engines were used for production cars <i>wherever legal</i>.

Keep in mind that by January, 1964, California started to tighten it's laws regarding smog control on all motor vehicles. This meant that a closed ventilation system was required on all cars manufactured for sale in California. So, in 1964, engines used in Mustangs with a <i>California DSO</i> should have a closed ventilation system with a PVC valve and an air hose conecting the oil breather cap to the air cleaner. Cars with DSO's other than California could use the road draft tubes wherever legal.

There are two distinct styles of road draft tubes used on the Ford small block engines. Some road draft tubes are bolted to a flat, triangular surface on the intake manifold behind the carburetor, which was machined to allow the tube to vent. Others were attached to the passenger side valve cover where the PVC valve would go. As Charles points out, HiPo draft tubes are unique, because of clearance issues with the exhaust manifold. My car was built in February of 1965, with a Philadelphia DSO. It has the valve cover style road draft tube.

I can't get the pictre any bigger? This shows the road draft tube.

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Edited by - CSXEng on 09/08/2006 00:30:30

View enlarged photo here of CSX engine...

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Jerrell

Edited by - Snell7729 on 09/09/2006 01:59:06

I have an early '64 (Jan) 4bbl intake if you are interested.

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Now for the six million dollar question....does anyone have the timing cover, Valve covers or intake manifold, and the tube? hehehe I know thats a funny one.

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I've got:

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and a few other misc pieces here:

http://home.comcast.net/~5R09K/forsale/forsale.html

if your interested, make me an offer.

Edited by - 65K09 on 09/09/2006 02:58:47

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Thank you all for your replies.

Now for the six million dollar question....does anyone have the timing cover, Valve covers or intake manifold, and the tube? hehehe I know thats a funny one.

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Everything on your list is easy to find except the tube. I saw an NOS HiPo draft tube at Carlisle a couple years ago. It was the one that bolts to the intake manifold. I don't know if the vendor still has it, but the price was around $125.00 at that time. Standard 260-289 draft tubes are so much easier to find in either style. I've seen several NOS along with nice used ones. It's hard to distinguish the difference between the standard and the HiPo draft tube without putting them side by side, unless you know exactly what the HiPo tube looks like.

It is a 4BBL intake - same one was used on all 4BBL cars including the HiPo.

It is the earlier C4 casting with small temp sending unit hole - correct for a 64 1/2.

Originally came from a '64 Fairlane.

It is in a box in the basement & I'm not in a hurry to sell.

I'd rather sell it to a good home than eBay. Shipping will be the big issue - probably $40-$50.

Let me know whne you can afford it and I'll make you a deal on it since I have no use for it.

Now that's the kind of transaction that is the high water mark of this site! The part will go to the end user, and NOT to one who is building a pile to be resold. Bravo.<img src=images/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Thanks for the great comments guys - I appreciate it.

I don't have a real love for eBay or the monkey business going on with the parts I see there - bad for the hobby IMHO.

I'm sorry to report I sold the intake this week, but it did go to another HiPo member who had asked about it several months ago.

So as promised it went to a good home.