1965 GT KCODE

sfred_old · February 3, 2007 at 6:40 PM

Hi,

Ive been looking at K codes for a while, and this car has been

on FORRISTALLS website for a while, the owner is honest about the engine not being the original,but im new to this and I was wondering

if anybody could tell me what they think about this car, is it a

nice car to invest in or is there problems with it,I know there are alot of questions to be asked about the car, and you can only go by the pictures, but can anyone help me,Im not sure how to attach the car ad but the website is http://www.forristalls.com. thanks for any help and comments.

SFRED

Edited by - sfred on 02/03/2007 18:51:13

BiffF15 · February 3, 2007 at 10:03 PM

SFRED,

The car looks great from the pictures on the web site. Obviously the more experienced guys will give additional advice however I would recommend getting the KCode book for sale elsewhere on this site. There are several good points the book will bring up in identifying a true K-Code.

The only thing that seems a little funny is the add never mentions if the car is a true GT as well or not. That's an additional 5k plus or minus of value / cost. KAR Mustang has a couple of good articles on determining if a car is a true GT. I have seen the Forristall adds before making a big deal out of a "factory" GT which would make me beg the question.

Get as smart as possible before "seeing" a car to avoid buyers remorse.

Damon

63Kcode_old · February 3, 2007 at 11:23 PM

Looks like a nice car to me, but there are many more knowledgeable people here yet to here from. I bought a Hertz car from Forristalls years ago. The deal went very smoothly.

SixT5HiPo · February 5, 2007 at 12:52 AM

A quick run through the photos reveal quite a few items that raise questions. The 5 gauge GT dash was probably added at some point. Notice the Rally Pac is the original early style that was not used with the GT 5 gauge dash in 1965. The glove box door is not correct for the '65 GT either.

The battery appears to have the polarity reversed... The coil is on the wrong side of the engine, and the fuel line has been rerouted incorrectly. Although these may seem like minor problems, it raises questions regarding the overall attention to detail of the restoration. Without knowing the VIN it isn't possible to make a more informed opinion of the car.

sfred_old · February 5, 2007 at 7:38 PM

Hi Guys,

I want to thank everyone for the input so far Ive already learned some new things about the cars,I was able to get the vin# for the car

at forristalls,Is it possible to trace history,or authenticity of the car through the vin#?,is there a way to tell by vin# if the car

was originally a GT, or if someone has cloned it,I also ordered the 4th edition 289 hipo book im sure it will help me alot,I would appreciate all the help and comments I can get on the car.

the vin # is 5f09k697046 thanks again.

garymcgowan_old · February 5, 2007 at 9:51 PM

Spencer, VIN# 5f09k697046 is in the registry and it's last know location was AR. Maybe some of the more knowledgeable members can give more information.

Hope this helps, Gary

289route66_old · February 5, 2007 at 10:10 PM

This car belonged to Burt Stacy. I believe he is a member. Very nice gentleman. Contact Burt, I'm sure he'll be glad to tell you all he knows about the kar.

round2K_old · February 5, 2007 at 10:37 PM

Curiosity question: the dealer says that they are not publishing the VIN because they have had them end up in fraudulent auctions on ebay. What good does it do to auction off a car with a VIN that doesn't belong to the car or chassis?

SixT5HiPo · February 6, 2007 at 12:07 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>

Is it possible to trace history, or authenticity of the car through the vin#?<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

The Ford VIN will only provide preliminary information regarding the car, including the model year, the assembly plant, body type, engine, and production sequence (consecutive unit number).

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> Is there a way to tell by vin# if the car

was originally a GT, or if someone has cloned it? <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

There is no way to determine if the car is a genuine GT just by the VIN number. However, we now know that the earliest possible GT Mustangs were built after mid February of 1965. This eliminates ALL Mustangs with Scheduled Build Dates before February 1965. In other words, if a Mustang has GT trim, etc., and was built before February, 1965, it is NOT a factory built GT. That is not to say that just because a 1965 "GT" Mustang was built February or later, it is always a genuine GT. Many Mustangs, including authentic K code models, were "converted" to GT's by adding the cosmetic features later. We have discussed and debated this subject multiple times in these forums over the years. Do an ADVANCED SEARCH and type "GT", "PIO", and "Performance Image Option" for links to posts regarding how to identify a real GT. Don't forget to search the site Archives as well.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>I also ordered the 4th Edition 289 HiPo book. I'm sure it will help me alot.

Thanks for ordering the book. Part of the proceeds from your purchase help support this website.

sfred_old · February 7, 2007 at 9:42 AM

Iwant to thank everyone that has responded, I appreciate you sharing your knowledge with me on this car, does anyone have contact information for Burt Stacey? Im sure he could tell me alot of facts about the car.

Thanks.

66KGT_old · February 7, 2007 at 10:37 AM

Here's a link to his profile, you can email him from there.

http://www.hipomustang.com/hpmx/pop_profi…=display&id=970

DJames_old · February 7, 2007 at 11:32 PM

Allow me to make this easy for everybody.<img src=images/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>First, the car is sold, so the rest is purely academic. The car's build date is early april of 65, but no, it is not a factory GT, but then, neither are 90% of the factory GTs out there. The car had both the five dial cluster and that rally pac when it arrived at Forristall's, so we left it in there.The battery has not had it's polarity reversed. I'm not even sure that's possible.It has one of those tops you can just set onto the battery to look like an autolite at a glance and, since the autolites where reverse post batteries and the perfectly good battery that the car had when it arrived is not a reverse post, it looks like the positive battery cable is attached to the negative post. The car does not have it's original motor, but it does have a K code motor, block, heads, rods etc...It just isn't correctly date coded for the car. The coil is on the wrong side because that's where I put it. It is less cluttered that way and since this is not a hundred point show car,that's just how I did it.If the new owner would like to have it on the other side, I would be more than happy to do that for him.Tomorrow I'll be putting red GT stripes on it for him because that's how he wants it to be. There are several things like that which I do to drivers, like put the battery in backwards so that the positive post isn't a hair's width away from the inner fender.This car hasn't been restored to trailered concours standards.If it had been it would have cost significantly more than it did. What it does have going for it is all original, laser straight,rock solid sheet metal, runs and handles well and looks great doing it.There is a lot of new stuff in the interior. You turn the key and it fires right up.No weird noises, no funny vibrations. Everything works. Will it take MCA Gold? Not a chance.Is it loads of fun to drive? Yes, it is.And it will reliably take you where you want to go and yes, it will also bring you back.<img src=images/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>It's a really nice driver.

Edited by - DJames on 02/07/2007 23:48:04

Edited by - DJames on 02/07/2007 23:49:12

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