Near new TOP LOADER RUG-AV

Bought from HI Perf Ford Dealer, for parts, as I was always replacing 2nd gears in the '70's. His idea! F119 build date and out of an early '70 Boss 302. Never taken apart as all my Super T-10's, T-10's, T-10M or Top loaders that were raced were close ratio.

Direct bolt-in for the wide flange 289 bell housing. All original FORD gears, sliders, forks, cluster.

Special price for K Exchange - $1,500.00

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All my rebuilds run NOS Ford gears and are very quiet, same with R & P, with Equal-lok or Traction Lok N cases.

HEH - '66 Big input Galaxy Top Loader also available - DONE

$ 1,600.00

RUG AE - Big Input Torino trans is laying around

$ 800.00

both tough fits in an early or 289/302 Mustang.

'67 390 Top Loader is there as well

$800.00

Have much more, these are clutter, in a '67 El Camino bed or in a trunk of a 325IC, one is going to Kentucky facility, & soon.

This RUG-AV trans is a wide ratio version. I also checked the pictures in the auction to verify this. 70 Boss 302's were available with both a close ratio and a wide ratio trans. It is not what we use in our Hipo cars as they are all close ratios.

-Fred-

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Fred:

depends on your final gear ratio? I had 6 K fastbacks, and a GT-350, at least three of them had problems with the Equal-lok and the 3.89 or 4.11 were long gone. 3.00 was replaced. 3.50 would have done the same with a 2.32 first.

Balanced & Blueprinted 289 -271 HP did one of two things, bogged off the line or spun the 8" wide tires, 200 feet. Another K had a wide ratio installed, another worked 271 hp engine, it was the fastest K in the fleet from 0-90 mph with a 3.50 LSD.

Have a low mileage, almost NOS, 4.30 rear-end assembly from drum to drum. Can not give it away, unless one considers $800.00 reasonable?

If you like to spin your engine at 4,000+ rpm at 75 mph or 5,000 rpm at 85 mph, which was common on I-10 last week; by all means run a close ratio and 4.11's.

Don't forget the ear plugs, forget the radio, conversations and Moly rings and Federal Mogul bearings are in your future.

There is an alternative or don't drive the car on an Interstate Highway.

I've gone the other way on my tow vehicle. F-250 with a Dana 60 and 3.08 gear, BFG All-Terrain, and 17 mpg at 85mph. Load or no load, same mileage. Truck is very quick too. E-Series have the same problem with full floaters.

Need more gear? I'm sure those 4.30 gears will spin your engine at 6,000 rpm at 90 mph, then invest in SpeedPro stock & Mobil 1 oil.

I was speaking about dimension, and the fact the OEM gears, sliders, cluster, forks, and shafts are like new.

Last '66 trans, I tore down had wear on everything, I got buried in NOS parts, which I will not do again. Then swapping a better main shaft.

I prefer OEM, Kees buys aftermarket from the same place that I buy my small parts kits.

I suspect most '65 & '66 Mustang top loaders will be no different than that Big Input Galaxy?

rick

This RUG-AV trans is a wide ratio version. I also checked the pictures in the auction to verify this. 70 Boss 302's were available with both a close ratio and a wide ratio trans. It is not what we use in our Hipo cars as they are all close ratios.

-Fred-

C6ZZKGT/Fred:

I missed the obvious, the two big inputs are close ratio and a real easy conversion, to most hi-po 4 speeds, Change 4th gear, pilot bushing, disc, and then the main shaft, adapter bushing, and 31 spline yoke. Whenever I'm in a Cobra shop, that is all I see next to the cars, big input/big output. Usally 10-12 cars at any point in time.

I'd consider the 1&3/8" as good as it gets on the bullet-proof top loaders.

Similar, conversion, to the Petronix module, in the OEM distributor, that Royce Petersen does to all his 427/428 Cougars, frequently on Hollenbeck's site. Knows his Fords, better than most.

I like the Durspark set-up and easily found for most FORD engines that had points.

Our, really Frank's, '70 SCJ, now runs a Big input wide ratio, David Kee supplied, and 3.50 N case, through mufflers on stock width tires. Drives to Englishtown, NJ and cuts through NYC traffic to get there. Last year, low 11's, went Keith Craft & 15K, $$, for a Gensis based CJ engine and guaranteed 600+ hp. Up 63hp from the old 428 that I'm familar and constantly pulling his OEM parts for inventory or back-ups.

Great test mule, show condition, wide ratio and no point deduction!!!

Did I forget fast?

rick

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"I am not knocking the use of a wide ratio trans for use with tall gears for highway use. I am merely stating that the RUG-AV trans, although it will fit, is not the original close ratio trans as Ford deemed proper for the original Hipo 289 cars".

-Fred-

C6ZZKGT/FRED:

Absolutely CORRECT. If you have a 100 point concours 271 hp Mustang, or original everything, paint included. Say my friend, John's, 7,000 mile CJ convertible, Scottsdale, AZ, I'd leave it alone.

For every one of those B-J or Kruse cars, I see 999 that have been rebullt, re-paneled, re-painted and re-everything. Module in dist, Comp springs, retainers, and locks, and maybe low mileage, NOS or no mileage input, sliders, shafts and gears; seem very concealed to me,e.g. in the OEM case and tailshaft housing and everything fits, if cherry picked.

Same applies to changing the R & P gear, very concealed.

As you know "deemed proper" is not the correct word for the 25 spline output shafts on many 271 powered Mustang.

That should have been a factory re-call.

rick

PS Forgot about the little Saleen SSC with a Detroit Locker and 3.73 LSD 8.8.

World's worst car on the highway, simply roars with Walker mufflers, until shifted to 5th on the TKO. All factory Saleen, 17" chrome pin wheels and 275/35/17 Yoko's. That is a 100 point car, not by choice.

My late model Chevy products with a 6 speed and LS-6 are a dream to drive on the highway and they run a 3.42 Auburn posi.

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Looks like the BOSS 302 TOP LOADER will be going to a Boss Owner in Florida, TODAY. Although I found two stalled, last 30+ years, '70 Boss 302 projects, in LONG ISLAND.

OE Engines are in 30+ pieces, as 351 Clevelands were installed to beat 1970 LT-1's. Good Luck, on that?

Trying to convince them to buy it. If not, sell the cars to me as I have NOS parts to finish anything on the drive-train and clean-out that one garage, for my L-78 Camaro arrivinmg from Scottsdale.

Incidently, Fred, M-22, with a 2.20 first + a factory 3.73 POSI. Not very good on the highway, for interior vibration, low decibles, or gas mileage. Easy 450 and up, factory hp with minor changes, e.g. 325 CFM factory intake ports might be one reason?