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Quote from bluebyu

Hi just found this site and it looks great. I bought my 66 K GT Coupe in 1968 at a Pontiac used car lot. The guy was trading it in on a new GTO. This car also has the over the counter Ford 3 2 set up with the correct air cleaner. In all these years I have only seen 2 of these air cleaner but there weremustang sky.jpgcarbs_autoscaled.jpg about 1,000 made so they have to be somewhere. Anybody else got one?

Welcome aboard!

Curious, what makes the air cleaner correct? Does it have a part number?

Thanks!

Hey Evan,

My Father purchased the engine complete back in the early to mid 80's.

The car it was removed from was supposedly so bad it was sent to the crusher.

We never actually saw the car but years later someone contacted the guy we got the engine from inquiring about it.

Where might I find this info you are referring to?

Thanks!

Can someone please explain to me or give me the correct information relating to the tag on a HiPo carb?

Should the numbers or information on the tag match the stamping on the base plate of the carb?

I have one I'm trying to decide if it's the correct tag for my carburetor?

Thanks!

Hey Fred,

Thanks for the move!

After I did it I realized it was most likely in the wrong place.

Rookie mistake!

Dan

Again Big thank you for your knowledge on this subject! Very interesting to me to say the least. I really enjoy reading about the history of the Ford stuff from the early 60's.

Funny you mention Bob's book. I was just looking to purchase it a few days ago. so I will do just that. Thanks!

On the C3 heads, did Ford and/or Shelby use these as stock castings on the cobra street cars? Were they used at all on the Tigers? Also, what was used on the GT 40's? I'm assuming something more performance driven?? Were all the Gt 40's race cars back then?

Do you know what month Ford first started producing the 1963 HiPo Fairlane?

Joe

Quote from Dan Case

Regular production of parts, mid February 1963.

Ford had preproduction engines in vehicles going through testing by September 1962. Parts and subassemblies unique to HP289 engines started being mass produced mid February 1963. Regular production of engine assemblies started the first work day of March 1963.

1963-64 HP289s were used in Fairlanes, Cobras, GT40s, anything Shelby, Genie sports racers, Holman-Moody racers, and several other new cars street and race on both sides of the Atlantic ocean.

From memory, Ford made and shipped about 400 engines a month March 1963 through around June 1964. The highest serial numbers I have listed was in a batch of late Cobras in the 646x range with 6469 being the highest five bolt serial number I have recorded to date.

A lot of the early engines were raced to destruction and or parted out. Finding a loose block with a serial number and assembly date before about April 12, 1963 is tough. Finding anything dated in any way before mid March 1963 is tough. Mid March 1963 onward there are generally enough loose parts around to build up a date correct engine except maybe a fuel pump. June 1963 parts are rare as production slowed for the summer break. August 1963 onward parts are not super rare except fuel pumps.

I don't remember the time of change from C3OE-E head castings to C3OE-F castings but "1963" heads were used March 1963 through part of April 1964.

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Hey Dan,

I really appreciate the info you provide. I've just recently discovered this site and look forward to more details that anyone is willing to share to keep this hobby we are all so passionate about alive!

I have a set of the C3 HiPo heads both dated 3C6.

Have had them for a long time, just now dawned on be about asking the question about the early dates for the HiPo.

Anyway to determine if they were to be used on the Cobras, GT 40's or the 63 Fairlanes?

Thanks!

Joe

Hello,

Sorry, new here

Maybe this should be in a different location??

Not sure, maybe someone could help me and move it??

Thanks!

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Quote from Zeke

Because.... thats what i want! A 5 bolt block is not as durable in the rear for one and two i dont want mexican caps on a 5 bolt block , i want a real 6 bolt hipo block or a nice regular 289 block that i can use real k code caps on it and have it align bored to fit.

The standard bore 6 bolt Hipo blocks are far and few between. A real one with a VIN stamp sells for $3,500 plus shipping. I know because that is what people have been paying me and that is within the last couple of months. I am just trying to give you some guidance on what is realistic. Yes, I also have Hipo main caps but they are also not cheap. None of this adds any performance to your car. Ford only did these blocks like this for more durability. If Ford had really wanted even more durability "back in the day", they should have used a forged crankshaft and forged pistons like their Chevrolet competitor did. Hipo heads do not deliver any extra horsepower either. They come with screw in studs and valve spring seats which are really only for durability. The Hipo heads have the same valves and ports that a 225 horse engine has. What helps with the factory horsepower increase over the 225 horse engine is the slightly larger carburetor, camshaft and a more free flowing exhaust. The dual point distributor makes the engine capable of higher RPM's which means that the horsepower is exchanged more times per second. The best reworked Hipo heads "back in the day" are not as good as some current aftermarket heads straight out of the box. The only time that original Hipo pieces are important is when you have a real Kar for the engine. Do not misunderstand my statements here as I am NOT down on the Hipo 289 engine. I have owned and still own a dozen Hipo 289 cars over many years. I do pride myself on having drivetrains as original. Is the Hipo 289 fast? Yes, but its best attribute is the rarity of the vehicles that came with the engine from the factory. Ford does well in documentation of that with the K in the serial number, except for Comets.

-Fred-

Hey Fred,

Interesting what you said about the Comets at the end. Most people don't Know that Ford was going to allow Mercury division to use the 289 HiPo in the 64 Comet but pulled the plug at the last min. They did however get the 1:12 autolite but not the manual choke version. I know because we use to run a 1964 Comet in NHRA SS/MA

Really neat piece I might add as well!

Great info,

Thanks!

Anyone on here know when Ford started production of the 289 HiPo heads?

I know they used them on the 1963 K code Fairlanes, but I'm not sure when production started on those?

What is the earliest 1963 production date that people on here have seen?

Also, weren't they used on the Cobras as well?

Thanks,

Hello all,

I have an early, Oct. 05,1964 build date, 1965 A code coupe with an original K code engine and 4 spd. TL. I restored a rust free car back in 2007-2008 and set it up as a Vintage A sedan Road Race car like they raced back in the 60's. I currently drive it on the street and it's a Blast!

Very interested in the 289 HiPo, so I thought I would join in.