Posts by SixT5HiPo
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Gotta like those early Fairlane HiPo exhaust manifolds...Apparently, the seller wants to sell this project car for $25,000.00. Considering what is seen in the pictures, does anyone think this is a good deal?

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This is a "California Guys" thread for sure...
You guys are spoiled rotten. - j/k
Good observation, Karl...There used to be plenty of 60's cars in Eastern junkyards, but relatively few remain at this point in time. When they were commonplace, nobody was interested in studying the cars for production line markings. Most of the cars were salvaged for parts, and then crushed decades ago...As time passed, a lot of yards were shut down when the environmental movement, strict EPA regulations, and local zoning restrictions tightened things up a lot, making it difficult to keep a "traditional" salvage yard business alive.
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...now that I have my High Po Mustang third edition in my lap, I didn't really need to post the question as the answer is in black and white right there.
That's exactly right. The book really does contain the answers to so many of the basic questions about the K code Mustang that appear on this forum. It's a great investment for anyone who wants to have a thorough reference source. I urge everyone who hasn't purchased a copy to do so...
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Quote from BoS
Hi,
A friend of mine bought original 67 shoulder harnesses
only for about $3000 some 3 years ago. I believe the seller
was Perogie...
The prices at Perogie are usually as high as the traffic will bear.
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Quote from C6ZZKGT
I have several sets with the arrows on the side like the Mexican caps in the picture. Bobs' picture with the arrows in the center is the first example that I have seen.
That's a very interesting picture that Bob has posted above. (I would guess those are some early castings.) Most of the HiPo caps we've seen on eBay have the numbers and arrows offset, as in the picture below:
By the way, the block that was referenced at the top of this thread was relisted, but didn't sell. The auction ended with only one bid of $200.00.
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Quote from BoS
Hi,
I don't think you need an early style air cleaner
lid for a car made in Feb. 65.
/Bo
I agree with Bo...especially if the car is Metuchen-built.
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Quote from brinks3447
I am the current high bidder. I would love to own this car. I think I will get out bid, but with the way the market is you never know.
Good luck...I wonder what the reserve is?
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I don't know about the "1% were automatics" claim...
We don't know what the percentage of automatics is, but it is very low. It's a case where rarity doesn't make for a better car. That's because the 4 speed compliments the engine so much better.
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Quote from brinks3447
Why is it that nobody posts the auctions or the "for sales" of K-code Shelbys?
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Quote from BoS
Hi,
If I am not mistaken, 28 GT350's from 67 were
equipped from the factory with Paxton.
This was proven by the invoices that SAAC has.
/Bo
That may be correct, Bo, but the World Wide Musclecar site claims: "1 of 19 factory equipped Paxton Supercharged GT 350's produced in 1967."
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There's no "NADA" Price Guide for K engines, but more details are required to get a good estimate for you. So many things will determine its true value. Here are just a few basic items, in no particular order, which will help determine a value:
1. Casting number of block.
2. Casting date of block.
3. Condition of block: standard bore or ?
4. Original assembly date of engine.
5. Casting number of heads.
6. Date codes on heads.
7. FoMoCo distributor, or Autolite/Motorcraft replacement?
8. Are the pistons, rods, and crankshaft original?
9. Is the valvetrain original?
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...but that car is barely worth half that amount.
And even that's being quite generous!
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Quote from garymcgowanDisplay More
Well after seeing this you guys are correct and I am wrong:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/196…sspagenameZWDVW
Guess it is time for me to start selling my K code engines and parts.
Gary
Maybe not...the original listing was cancelled, and has been relisted with a revised description: "HAS "MEXICAN" HI-PO CAPS". Buy It Now price lowered to $1650.00. Don't ya just love eBay?
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Quote from 66gtk
For that asking price, he should fix many of the glaring problems in the engine compartment and it should be properly detailed. It looks far from an "All original survivor" to me. Just because it has original FOMOCO sheetmetal, that doesn't make it a "survivor". I've also seen quite a few Mustangs with that color combo in both convertible and fastback. All of them were GTs as well. I just can't get over the way some dealers describe their cars...
Quote from b9folkThey got white paint on the brake handle bracket & air vent knob bracket, and left the pedal arms rusty. There are lots of details that could easily have been done better if they wanted to ask for such a price.
QuoteLooks likes the undercarriage was detailed with a rattle can...
Considering the way the pictures look, it would be surprising if it brings even half the Buy It Now price.
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The right hand HiPo exhaust manifold on the K code Fairlanes have a cast-in boss that accepts a heat riser tube for the automatic choke. The casting number is C3OE 9430 C. Around April of 1964, a manual choke was issued for the HiPo Fairlanes which required a revised manifold cast without the heat riser boss, and carries casting number C4ZE 9430 A.
Here are a few pictures of the early style Fairlane manifolds. Note the heat riser boss clearly visible on the right side manifolds just forward of the outlet flange.
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Quote from dunc289
My question is were these style of caps EVER USED ON A GENUINE HIPO? My gut tells me no, and I paid a lot for it, so am sad to have to call the guy...
Sounds as though you'll have to "call the guy" to get things straight...The date coded Mexican caps are not original for a 289 HiPo engine.
Here's a set of pictures of genuine HiPo caps followed by a picture of a set of the Mexican caps.
C3OE HiPo Caps
Mexican Caps
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Quote from round2K
I recently read that the VIN numbers were sequential based on the plant production of all models, not just Mustangs. The sequence could have contained other car models being produced on the various lines. I am not sure of the accuracy of this...
Figuring out Ford Mustang production can be a bit confusing to us at this point in time...
It's important to remember that the DAP produced both Fairlanes and Mustangs from March through June of 1964. While Fairlane serial numbers are in the 4FXXX1XXXXX series, Mustang serial numbers start with 5F0XX1XXXXX. When regular production started in March, Dearborn built 867 Mustangs and Fairlanes the first week, increased to 1,955 units the second week, and continued increasing until it reached a peak of around 1,320/day when efficiency maxed out.
The Mustang consecutive unit numbers at Dearborn jumped from the 230000 series to 250000 at the changeover to "1965" production after July 31st of 1964. Consecutive unit numbers skip the 400000 and 500000 series, which were used for other Ford divisions.
When it became clear that one assembly plant could not produce enough Mustangs, Ford's San Jose Assembly Plant began building them around mid July 1964, beginning with unit number 5R0XX100001. This quickly transitioned from the 104000 series to 125000 beginning in August of 1964, when "1965" production started.
Because 1965 production was actually a continuation of Mustang production that started in 1964 1/2, the consecutive unit numbers at the Dearborn and San Jose assembly plants did not "reset" to 100001 when "1965" Mustang production started up in August, 1964.
Dearborn could produce about 1,320 units a day, and San Jose could turn out about 480 cars a day at that time. It was still not keeping up with demand, so Ford decided to add a third assembly plant in the East.
The Metuchen Assembly Plant started building 1965 Falcons and Comets in August of 1964. These Falcon serial numbers begin with 5TXXX100001, while the Comets received numbers beginning with 500001. (As Charles correctly stated, Ford and Mercury divisions use independent consecutive unit numbers.) When Mustang production was added in early 1965, Falcon production was discontinued there, and moved to the Lorain, Ohio plant. Mustangs built in NJ have a VIN sequence that begins with 5T0XX130000, and all are consecutively numbered.
With three assembly plants building the Mustang, it was finally possible to turn out about 12,000 units a week. While there was sufficient production capacity, a shortage of 289 engines became the next problem. Ford added 289 production to the Windsor, Canada engine plant to ease the strain on the Cleveland Foundry to solve this problem. However, 289 HiPo engines were only made at Cleveland.