Posts by club 33_old

    Quote from CharlesTurner

    Hard to tell in your pic, but are there 2 indents where the bracket would be typically located on the unibody? They are usually perpendicular to each other, used as a locating spot for the bracket.


    Charles,


    No. There are no indents for the bracket on my car. Like you say, it is difficult to tell in my picture, especially since there are a few holes drilled right there (not factory.) I've seen several earlier cars that were "smooth" here.


    Thanks,


    Brant

    Quote from C6ZZKGT

    Brant, I concur with Ralph on the hose for a Hipo being the same regardless of production date. The 1965 only bound Ford parts catalog lists a C5ZZ 2282 D for this application as does the later loose leaf Ford parts catalog. I agree that the location where the hose mounts to the body would not matter to the part number as much as to where it mounts to the rear end housing.


    -Fred-


    Thanks to both of you for the responses. Yes, Fred, I noticed that the Ford Parts Catalog does not list a different hose for the earlier cars. For that reason, I was going to just go with the "D" hose.


    All that said, it would just be interesting to learn of some original production examples. ...always curious about this stuff.


    I think that you are 100% correct. I'm just trying to determine when the change may have been made, and, more importantly, which brake hose was originally used with the early set up.

    Please take a look at your HiPo Mustang's Rear Brake Hose and mount if your car was scheduled to be produced in 1964, particularly September of '64 and earlier.


    Normally, the dual exhaust equipped cars are assumed to have the "L" Bracket mount for the rear brake hose for "clearance" with the factory dual exhaust. (Please note that the earlier cars do not even have an indentation in the floor pan for the location of the bracket.) Along with this, of course, is the brake hose itself with a bracket.


    Anyway, the earlier production cars have the rear brake hose mount normally considered to be only on the single exhaust cars, but I'm not sure which brake hose these particular cars used.


    If you have an earlier car, please take a look. The hose, of course, may have been changed over the years, but the bracket usually would not have been. I am trying to determine when the bracket change was made and which brake hose was used on these earlier cars.


    The image shown here is of a Dearborn produced HiPo Convertible with a scheduled build date of August 10, 1964. BTW, this car was, of course, originally equipped with the early transverse dual exhaust system also.


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    Looking for original 289 High Performance Fan Spacer. "Body" of the spacer should measure 2 1/16" (not counting the alignment dowel part of the spacer.) Prefer style with FoMoCo Script on "nose" of alignment dowel section and no part number on spacer.


    Thanks,


    Brant

    Quote from 6hypo5conv

    tells me at the very least that Motive's quality control is lacking, or like I asked before may be their stuff has been sent overseas for production to try & save money.

    Again, I don't believe the quality is lacking and the production definitely has not been sent overseas. This is a fairly small company that makes a great product at a reasonable price. The owner really cares about his product and takes care of his customers. I know, because I deal with hundreds of suppliers in this industry, and he is one of the good ones.


    Honestly, I would not go on about this in this forum if I did not feel so strongly about it. I find it best to usually just stay out of these types of discussions, particularly when folks are just speculating about things, which is definitely the case here.


    I'll just leave it at that. If anyone has an issue with any of Motive's products, please go directly to the source (as I previously posted), call the dealer that you purchased the product from, or call me. The problem can and will be resolved.


    As I mentioned before, there are lots of variables involved in installing any part, particularly exhaust systems. Parts can be defective once in a while from even the best suppliers/manufacturers. The key is if the particular supplier or manufacturer really cares about making a good product and wants to take care of one that there is a problem with. Steve at Motive does all of this. Give him a call to discuss it, and you will find that this is the case.


    -Brant

    Virginia Classic Mustang Inc

    540-896-2695

    Quote from cobraboy

    This is all very interesting as I was not far away from needing an exhaust and was considering Motive. I have loose baffles in the system I have, and with it being fully welded have had to part the pipes to do some panel beating on the top of the mufflers to quieten it

    Would someone who has bought a concours correct system for an April '65 GT be kind enough to list the Motive part numbers I need for a full system from the manifold back. Also 2" or 2.25" which is the way to go ? Thanks


    The original system was 2". Each dealer that handles Motive products will have their own part number. Motive does not sell direct to retail customers.

    Quote from 6hypo5conv

    66GTK: How long ago did you buy and install your system? mine was bought and installed about 9 months ago.


    If Motive was making a system that they were having no complaints about why would they switch to something else? are they being forced to have their systems made overseas now??


    No changes in manufacturing or quality over the last many years. Just like everything else, you may get a defective part once in a while.

    Quote from kar-nut

    I have Motive exhaust on my car, there is loose baffle inside the RH muffler that knocks/bangs disappointed in the quality.


    The mufflers are made by a very reputable company for Motive, but obviously things like this can happen. We have sold hundreds of sets and have never had a problem with mufflers as you describe. If it did occur though, I am sure that it is something that could be taken care of and replaced.


    -Brant

    We sell Motive Industries products, and I have to say that Steve is a great guy, makes excellent products, and is one of our best suppliers. This particular system is probably the the most difficult system to fit up and install plus due to the rarity of the early cars, very, very few of them are ever sold. There is also an issue with fitting these if one does not have your original tail pipe hangers for this specific system.


    My car is an August '64 production convertible, and I have personally fit up one of these and tweaking was required to make it fit perfectly.


    You indicate that it is now installed and looks/sounds nice, so I'm not sure what questions you would have; but I can assure you that Motive Industries Exhaust Systems are overall excellent products.


    -Brant

    Virginia Classic Mustang Inc

    Quote from CharlesTurner

    I'm wondering if a metal man could fix the chisel marks by grinding burs down smooth and maybe welding up divots?


    Yes, this definitely could be done. It just takes a lot of time.


    Quote from CharlesTurner

    You gotta admit the date codes on the upper and lower control arms is cool though. Who would have though that?!


    Yes, I never noticed this until you pointed it out.


    Thanks. I'm looking forward to more updates.


    -Brant

    Charles,


    Do you plan to restore those original control arms? If so, how will you proceed? I'm not aware of any quality lower ball joints available unless you removed them from a Moog complete arm. Also, I would be interested in how the rivets could be properly and accurately attached.


    Thanks again,


    Brant

    Thanks to both of you for the information. Bo - thanks for pointing out that date to me. You made me go look up the Ford VIN. Heck, I have not looked at it for so long that I did not know what I was talking about. I'm going to go look at the assembly date on the engine and stuff like that now. We did not even bother with that stuff back in the '80's.


    Thanks again guys!


    -Brant

    This is a great question. Thanks for everyone's feedback. You know, I'm pretty sure that 5S162 (around Jan. '65-San Jose) had the metal ones. I know I put metal ones back in it when it was restored, but that was over 20 years ago.


    In another original '65 GT350 interior shot that I have, I can see the switch, but I really cannot determine for sure if it is the white plastic or the metal bezel one. If I had to guess though, it looks like the plastic one.


    -Brant

    You know, I remember looking at an old '66 Coupe, probably 20 years ago, that had the service instruction decal originally mounted upside down on the fender apron (not the shock tower.) Unfortunately, this was before the days of documenting it with a quick digital image.


    -Brant