Posts by J_Speegle_old

  • Drive Shaft Markings and Engine Rebuild

    Wow!!!! plenty of drama again


    And no popcorn to go with it :(


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    ............ I bought and own the FIRST '65 ordered, the FIRST '65 Fasback built, and the FIRST .................


    What make it the FIRST fastback built???

    How did you determine that "fact"????


    Since we accept (well most of us) that the cars were not built in sequential order (by VIN)


    Thanks for posting the pictures and making them available to everyone - I'm sure its an interesting car though I'm sure there are many of us that are saddened about your choice to modify the car. But that that stated it is your car.


    But from reading this post (have not seen the others) I did not understand that you were not restoring it - sorry. Since its posted in the "Restoration" section of this site.


    BTW what color are you painting in? Something from the period or a more modern color? Looks like your staying - somewhat with the original look in the interior - What are you going to use for front seats?


    Look forward to more discoveries and pictures of your findings


    Oh almost forgot (came back and added this )


    Quote from jr.S

    and in no way should you have any reason or ambition to answer questions directed to me about my car, nor should you answer questions directed to others about their cars, unless they are unsure. .........


    I think its called HELPING (what others are thinking) Not sure when this became YOUR site. Guess neither of us get to make the rules.


    Sorry I had to say (after rereading the posts) what others are afraid to say. ;)

  • Wanted 1967 k code engine

    Another option would be (since it will not be the original block for your car anyway) would be to find a block with a good date for you can and add hipo main caps. From there you can hunt down the crank and rods - believe (if your going the matching date thing) that a dated balancer will be the most difficult item to find


    Just an option many have used

  • Battery Clamp Correct style -24F - 22F

    I guess the additional question must be if the engineering drawing change ever went into effect for production parts and if so when?


    There are plenty of examples of drawing changes (assembly manual examples come first to mind) that were never applied or used to produce items


    Just something to consider ;)

  • Engine compartment black paint

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    ...... I know we all have out favorite mixture but do we have a clue as to what Ford used for this? ........


    Please remember that many of these pieces were not painted by Ford or if painted by Ford, painted at dozens of distant locations using different products and mixtures. Also the amount of gloss was also effected by the painting process (sprayed or dipped) so most of the bolt on items should look different from the engine compartment walls and each other.


    One product does not fit all IMHO

  • Concours Service Decal

    Quote from 6hypo5conv

    You know this brings up a good point I think:

    Back in the 60s on the assembly line I think the folks slapping our cars together never ever thought in a million years that WE would be restoring them as we are today, and certainly never gave it a thought about how they applied a decal, sticker, or even how they alligned a body panel, or even how much dum-dum putty they applied in areas of a given car, .


    According to the workers I've talked to there were expectations as to where and how things (even as small as decals) were to be installed and people who checked. Of course some got through and in some cases a little variety but as its been explained to me workers feel into doing things by memory as they didn't have much time to think about things with the rate the cars were going by. They found what worked and what was comfortable, quick and what didn't get kicked back and most of the time stuck to it.


    As far as fit - I can't believe how well many of the the original cars fit together - wish some of my new car's body panels were that well aligned


    Just a couple of observations/experiances

  • suspension and steering colors

    Items such as steering arms and linkage are a natural heat treated look (very dark steel) Tie rods also have brighter machined surfaces you will need to reproduce.


    This would include, center link, pittman arm, idler arm and mounting bracket, tie rod ends and adjusting link


    Strut rods as well as leaves of the rear springs (not eh clamps) are also dark heat treated.


    Front upper and lower A arms are natural stamped steel with plated boot retainers and the inner attachment points were dipped in semi-gloss black paint (may have caused runs or filled the lower jack taps) to approx 2/3rd the total length


    Rear leaf spring clamps, strut rod stops and rear spring plates are all natural bare steel (oiled) so the metal looks like new bare steel with the metal where the bends were made slightly brighter/smoother from the forming


    Spindles often appear to be coated or painted from the oil quenching process. In general that are slightly IMHO darker than bare steel but not as dark as the hardened steering components


    For Concours classes you can try and paint these items or use a mix of paint and coatings to reproduce the look of original parts,


    Hope this helps

  • Time to assemble...

    Here are a few shots of other San Jose cars built around the same time


    OF course there will always be exceptions to the normal practice (workers missing, skipping an area) but always be prepared with documentation if you choose to return your car that way. Checking my pictures I've got one 65 San Jose front wheelwell that is different than what we normally see. Car is numbered about 10,000 units earlier than Mr Turner's convertible.


    As mentioned the sound deadener turns white with age and with exposure to sunlight - likely IMHO to the asbestos used in the product


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  • Time to assemble...

    Quote from earlyk

    Thoroughbred Shelby first car to win the MCA Authenticity Award! San Jose Fastback Shelby GT350 restored by Shane, Its also won all of the SAAC awards as well... Just look at that overspray... Looks correct to me! How is that possible???


    How is that possible?


    Fairly easy - First its a restored car and not an original one.


    Secondly cars that win these awards are rarely if ever prefect (no point deductions) and often receive point deductions. If the the number of points deductions allow them to reach preset limits they take home the award - EVEN with mistakes and deductions.


    What you show in the pictures is the typical restoration of a San Jose car restored in the north midwest - with many details borrowed from Dearborn cars. This can be seen repeated over and over again on cars at auctions and on Ebay.


    I can think of a 66 GT350 that won Gold at SAAC in Division I and at MCA in Thoroughbred also a couple years ago. It was also featured in Mustang Monthly. On that car the rear wheelwells were finished incorrectly (sound deadener was applied as the final coat there) and it remains that way today. Of course I'm sure that some viewed the car at the shows or in the magazine and for some reason assume that since it won these award its safe to copy every last detail off of the car to theirs.


    One of the reasons to focus on when and where a car was assembled in forums like this is to put an end to the mixing and matching from one plant to another that as repeated itself over and over through the years.


    Not sure when all of these awards were won. But if this car did not win the SAAC awards last year ( sorry I missed the show due to a scheduling problem) I deducted for those wheelwells. If it was done last year I would be disappointed if the other judges didn't either.


    Can provide plenty of original front wheel well pictures from the same time period and plant. Have tens of thousands of them ;)


    Hope this helps in some little way

  • Question about repro 67 HiPo Exhaust Manifolds

    Think you'll find that the earlier cars used the same as the 65-66 Hipos and only the later used the C7's but date codes would prove this if you could collect enough samples. Of course since Ford didn't install Thermactor until mid April and only for a handful of cars not sure if Ford would have needed them much earlier in the year ;)