Posts by J_Speegle_old

Quote from 429scott

I believe G2 is the same as the Y2, both 4spd V8 cars only thing is G2 was the early rad(1965) and Y2 was the later(1965) 4spd rad.

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I think they changed from G2 to Y2 in May of 1965 as I have a 3-65 G2and my friend has a 4-65 G2 and a 5-65 Y2.

Add to the two above it appears that G2 was replaced by Y2

But it appears that there was not a specific cut off as the information shows below

12/64 = C4ZE Y2

3/65 = C4ZE G2

4/65 = C4ZE G2

2/66 = C4ZE Y2

I've never seen a small tag (such as AMK offers) attached to the core of a San Jose Mustang

Anyone seen a "Z2"?

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Did the early '65s come with a lower boot?

No

According the TSB's Ford started installing the lower boot durign 66 production (Feb 16 is the date listed)

Quote from otto

just the case i have seen a few with the case aluminum and the tailshaft cast iron

Someone just mixing and match parts durign a rebuild I would bet

Looks like an early COBRA 2x4 intake and Carters. The fuel lines and vacuum lines are home made though someone did a nice job.

Missing the original air filters (not the real easy to get) Didn't notice any linkage

Does not show the water passages nor mentions the threads and holes .... all issues with old aluminum intakes

quote: Do we have an altered number do you think? He wants $85 large. Lots of possible reasons for what you found. None of them IMHO adding up to a real/original Shelby

Gary, Toms correct as long as your asking about a FoMoCo dist

If it's a Motorcraft, well the answer changes

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Charles what does it cost approximately to have a block sleeved back to standard?

Depends where you are (average shop cost) and who does them. Git quoted last year $800-1200 for 8 sleeves

According to the documents I have automatics were not stamped until 68. Auto thief thing rather than warranty thing.

Quote from Storfiskarn

My Kar is a 1966 San José made, scheduled build date Dec 6 1965 (06M) and DSO´d for Los Angeles (71). I understand that HiPo´s didn´t have the smog pump before 1967

Calif. started requiring a full Thermactor system on K codes (428's from the first of the production year) starting on April 15th if I remember correctly

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and that the emission controll law was released on CA cars Jan 1 1966.

Emission controls started before that. Thermactor use started at the beginning of the production year on all Calif delivered non-Hipo cars

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But how about the oil cap on my HiPo that was built just before the emission law took effect? Is the correct set up a non-emission cap with a PCV valve attached to the carb. spacer, or should it be a closed ventilation system cap connected to the air cleaner? Or am I completely wrong about the whole thing?

Yes. A Calif delivered Hipo from 66 would have had the closed emission system which would include the breather with the hose attachement and the PCV valve and its attachement

Qman are you looking for a San Jose undercarriage or one from another plant? There are differences. Email me directly and I'll try and help. Have about 18,000 pictures currently. Will help to know your VIN or about when the car was assemblied to show you what was taking place around the same time

Sorry none of the above. Too many other cars out there to choose from

You should have one on drivers side in front of shock tower, and one behind the shock tower. One on the passenger side behind the shock tower.

Vin would be listed on the door tag, owners manual and if so equipped on the buck tag. Other places to look would be the original engine block and transmission.

The important ones are the ones stamped into the unibody

Depends on who made the pump. Accordng to TSB #1682

TRW = Black (tag has a "W" bottom line 2nd diget)

Ford Thompson = Blue (tag has a "F" center line)

Quote from CharlesTurner

Yes, they are the right design. The gray ones were usually used on San Jose cars. There are normally 5 per car.

Charles I've seen plenty of opaque ones on 65 San Jose fastbacks. Change seems to be sometime in 66 from the ones I've seen

As for 3 or 5? I've seen it both ways on original cars. Though the assembly manual shows only three the page may indicate that was the change the page was produced to illustrate. Or not (the problem IMHO with the manual).

Just received a handful of the reproductions. Look pretty good. The "white opaque" ones are a little yellow to me but both those and the grey ones details are a little soft - just not as sharp in detail. Glad to see someone making them. Got to check with him to see how he want to be contacted for sales

It is my belief that the quick inspection that they will receive at a show (maybe a 2 second look) these will pass inspection.

You can find (from time to time) buck tags made from 66 door tags that have not been separated (door tag and metal tag that went in the owners manual)

Just to add some more info (though not specific to 64-66)

Have pictures of two export cars (not to Canada built in NJ in 6 both basically unrestored and low mileage. One has the export brace but no washers. The other (shipped to Japan) no export brace but with washers.

Have a 69 San Jose built export with export and no washers.

Quote from garymcgowan

I read this on David Kee's site. "Some of the early K code Mustang Toploaders were stamped on the bottom center of the maincase with the complete VIN"

Does anyone have one marked at this location?

Earliest Ford 4 speed I have seen stamped was a 64 which matches what is written in auto thief books of the period. The full VIN seems to have been stamped until sometime in 68 then the shorten version (year,plant,sequential number) after that.

Some of the earlier trans (and later ones) have been seen with the VIN stamped on the mating flange at the front while (at least SJ had 66-67 (Can't recall 65 right this moment) VINS on the little trans tab as shown in the picture above.

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I read somewhere that some plants put them behind the the headlight on the radiator support. Has anyone ever found one there?

Someone might be mixing up years - 69-70 Dearborn cars were mounted on the passenger side radiator support. If rotated a little (or allot) during installation that end up behind the lip of the headlight bucket assembly

Went back and searched the add-delete sheets and there is indeed (my oversight) a listing (ITEMS TO BE INSTALLED) showing 2- 3829698 Brkt Assy - Frnt Shock Abs. Upper listed

Interesting that the sheets refer to a number of items we know by part numbers using hardware numbers - like the "export" brace. Don't know why

Quote from garymcgowan

If it was for warranty purposes why didn't the dealer stamp the replacement engine as it would have had some kind of warranty on it?

Does anyone know when the engine and transmission was stamped? If so, I would bet that almost all would have been stamped. Has anyone ever had a VIN number misssing from any of the hidden areas of the body?

The main purpose (my understanding) was to deter theft. That is why car makers first started stamping only high performance engines and 4 speed transmissions. Father was an auto thief detective for may years.

Its my understanding that the a worker would stamp the engine and trans ( if required) at the engine and trans substation) before the subassembly was sent to the line to meet with the car. Different stamps and person than the ones doing the body.

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Has anyone ever had a VIN number missing from any of the hidden areas of the body?

Very rare but I do have a 69 San Jose built car that has no stamps on in the "hidden" areas and it retains all the original panels. Makes for problems of course