It is really great to see all of the docs from A-Z in sequence. Thanks.
Posts by round2K_old
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If the tape was found on cars other than Shelby knockdowns going to LA, perhaps the tape was used to keep the caps from falling off bags during packing and shipping.
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Still seeking 65 parts:
Yellow top coil.
Pair of horns.
The small U-shaped bracket that holds the torsion bar in the middle of the FB trunk lids.
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Points for having the honesty to put it up on a hoist too.
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If you read that add it says the motor is still there:
"highly sought after K-code 289cid 271hp HiPo engine"
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The voice of experience; nothing worse than paying up for one and having it puke after six months.
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I would be cautious about comparing Shelby driveshafts to a stock hipo because of the transmission differences. I haven't ever worked on the internals of a T-10, but if the yoke is different than a toploader and the gear box has a different overall length then those shafts could have had different markings.
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Quote from C6ZZKGT
I agree with a destroyed marking on the registry but not just a removal from the registry as Dave possibly suggests. That way it does not just disappear from history.
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Good point; removal would mean it could pop up again.
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Don't throw in the towel yet; there has to be someone out there with an unrestored driveshaft. 375 hits means you probably have anther 1,200 K code owners to go. I keep hoping someone has one too.
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Once you have everything disconnected it will have to come back to clear the studs on the blower motor then down. The large round foam gasket that connects the cowl to the top right corner of the box may stick if it's really old.
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Ford stated in their TSB that they would replace the intermediate mufflers in the event that the customer found the noise objectionable.
As far marketing the system to end users, that's beyond the scope of my effort. My car had the system originally and the system has yet to be reproduced. The system was used on hipos for a period of roughly 6 months, so there isn't a big market for it. I'm not in the exhaust business either, I'm an enthusiast, so it's a challenge to undertake reproducing something like this without the help of others to piece together the components. We have yet to find a car with a complete intact Arvinode system in place, so I've never even heard one. If it's loud and badass (as I've been told) I can live with that. It will certainly distinguish the non-GT Arvinode hipos from all the others:)
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The Ford TSB for fixing excessive noise complaints states that the system was on Derborn and Metuchen cars built prior to April 2, 65 and San Jose cars prior to April 4, 1965. I suppose these would then be reasonbly accurate dates for the introduction of the GT dual system to replace the Arvinode.
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Perhaps I don't understand your question. Can a recording be made once the system is built; yes. Can they provide sounds "from the mufflers they are considering"; I'm not sure what the value would be in trying to hear the sound of different pieces individually. The various components have yet to be combined and assembled on a car with a hipo motor so the answer, if you really want to hear the real deal, is no.
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I agree with removal; there is no car to restore and someone will try to take advantage.
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Quote from 289kford
What would be the chances of getting some sound clips from the mufflers they are considering?
That wouldn't be possible without a correct installation on a hipo.
Quote from RROACHHi!I haven't ascertained if my Jan 65 K is an ARVINODE car but I believe it is in the range.Also NPD is looking to reproduce this system as well,and are looking for parts and diagrams.Maybe I'll crawl under and check this weekend.My car has some of the original exhaust hangers.I am interested in this system,Thanks and HAPPY HOLIDAYS!RANDY
I was one of the people pushing NPD to pursue this and they were interested, but not actively pusruing it. Motive Industries builds NPD's transverse system and they were not interested when I spoke with them last.
Someone else may have more precise data, but the Arvin system was generally installed from Oct '64 through Feb/Mar '65. It replaced the early transverse dual system and then was superseded by the GT duals.
Quote from toolboxI'd be interested.
Would your manufacturer be able to reproduce the quinkie tube mufflers, or would you just use glasspacks or something like that?
The intermdiate pipe and the long muffler in that section will be prototyped. The tail end resonator with the welded turn-down will be easier. There has been no success in getting Ford to release engineering drawings yet, but some photos do exist thanks to board members.
If any of you suspect you have Arvin hangers please take pics and post them or email them.
Charles - how about a good pic and some measurements of your NOS band clamp? They are willing to reproduce them with the sheetmeal screw if we can get the right width and end details.
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I am working with a custom exhaust manufacturer to reproduce the early Arvin system and would like to know if any of you would be interested. I'm not sure what they're going to cost, but the more the merrier to reduce the expense and I think they will be reasonable. We have yet to get any engineering drawings and are working from photos accumulated from various contributors to the topic over the past few years. Thanks.
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One more inquiry for SJ car owners:
In the engine compartment; the clips that hold the wiring harness for the blower motor on the passenger side cowl brace: are they the black plastic covered clips or the small bare steel versions? Please note if your car is a convertible. Thanks.
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Quote from kar-nut
Again documentation was requested and presented……. I’m sorry my sharing actual confidential Ford information with the members of this forum has created such controversy.
Tom - everyone is appreciative of any contribution to the dialogue. Having the engineering info is a very important piece of the puzzle. Please continue to pitch in.
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Was that drawing posted here somewhere a while back? I'd be intereseted in seeing what it looks like.
