I'd say 5K, $$, would be a good starting price. Dependent on inventory/completeness?
Late '64 car or early '65 adds value and is RARE.
Perfectionist's should dive into the block and rotating assembly, as these are not my L-88 engines which can take .125 over-bore.
Ford engineered thin wall, and core shift is notorious on Clevelands.
Add too thin thrust side on JETS and 427's which forces good builders to sonic test or go Genesis like Keith in AR and Shelby.
I have a cast iron C5OE w/p, early '66 K engine, was this installed on hi-po's?
rick
I guess I am aging faster than I thought. The only thing in this thread that makes much sense to me is somebody mentioning the stamping Mr. Mondello's shop use to apply to their craftsmanship.
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Like the Aluminum T-10M with cast iron tail housings, not all of Mondello's work was stamped. Especially the Shelby GT-350R heads. Add Valley Head service as a sub, as well.
I don't know the reasons for various sub's, and omissions of " Mondello's xxxx xxxx".
I have spoken with Joe and he was the owner.
I suggest the other poster's do the same.
Down-side: have your credit card or check book out, his shop rate is $120.00+ per hour.
Mondello does not work for free.
1.94 SS is correct
K heads were out or cas, long before K Mustangs, installed in many Fairlanes and Merc's. Just ask Doug Nash.
First Cobra's were not SC's. Bunch of TVR, Sunbeams, Griffiths, before Italian exotica ran K engines before 1st Mustang rolled-off in April '64. + Mangusta.
"Add TRACO to the telephone call, they built the R code engines + most of the DZ Trans Am engines as well", from Joe.
BTW: NOS sold for a few $$.
K engine next, some Top Loaders, and '67 Elky bed full of SCJ and Shelby GT-500 parts.
Always a pleasure!!
Round2K:
I always say, to my 8 year old in 3rd grade, avoid words which you can not pronounce correctly and/or spell.
Denise responds: why?
Do you want to be the class clown or hated for being pretentious?
Got'ch ya, she says.
C- for grammar, A+ for being 40 years ahead of some grown-ups.
Next Mobil 1 oil change, on my LS-1, I'll read Satre or Camus.
I'm sure the oil will flow faster and cannister will fly-off.
Blogging gets better with every NOS, SHelby or Cobra part that is pulled, out of that '67 El Camino.
rick
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"The words SEEM to be in English... The syntax is nonsequitr..."
If you like prose and writing? Keating and Robert Frost are your men.
If you like your Centari, multi-coat Mustang? Start buying some NOS rockers and frame rails, before you attempt the quarter panels and front-end rust.
In addition, you need some tools. For example, a Car-O-Liner to straighten your Fastback, even reasonably straight.
You're about 40K, SHY, of having a need for my GT-350R heads and 350 HP - Shelby 289. Assuming you have a standard bore K Block and some 3/8" rods to handle the RPM and torque?
The syntax is nonsequitr..."
Is that last word, of your's, suppose to be non-sequential?
Got the sequential car for you? '69 CJ, triple black, no rust ever, and BLACK & GOLD CA plates. It will fit into next or first novel, perfectly.
Got to love bloggers!!!!!!!!!!
You beat TP427 cold, please pose a question on the item.
You are the best!
Rick
on Stainless today, e.g. mandrel bending, syntax is superfluous
Instant 50 hp, one of the last sets done for Carrol Shelby by Joe Mondello, add the salomn cam and very fast K code or GT-350. Same external appearance and no loss of compression like GT-40 heads, which were installed by Ford and Saleen on my SSC. Comparable results, except edge goes to the Saleen with boost & Vortec.
E-Bay bloggers and Hi-Po Police have tried to fault: worst case, TP427, in GA, suggested they were milled 100 thousandths?
Mondello said: no deck would have been left + heads are CC'd for wide application. Not a 240 mph GT-40, built for Le Mans, pushing 575 hp.
Item number: 200135037179
much jpg'd 289 hi-po, in background, for Aussie & Swiss bloggers, on this forum, K dreamers.
I'm looking for an early '66 K car for a quick install, + deep inventory of top loaders, many SCJ with Big In & Big Out for 4 speed fum and good main shaft.
'67 Elky bed is down to 5 engines, motivation for SCJ and Shelby sales, located at my beach house in Atlantic Beach.
rick
I suppose you are right, if the SAAC published it.
I suppose the 50 or more GT-350's, track and shop floor, and the few R's: were 1499 and down,
Tony his seen quadruple, same deal + his very rare GT-350 is all aluminum.
I do know in '68, '69 and '70 TRANS AM Fords ran the same 4 speed. Readily available and in all the cars.
No one ran anything cast iron, except Gurney one year with his AAR car and he complained about the 140 pound cast iron piece of Hemi over-kill.
I had a tunnel port and I still have the 2.43 all aluminun T-10M, Daytona model, that a 427 could not blow-up in Saddle River storage.
That's all aluminum as well or I would not have bought it from Holmon & Moody with the '68 Tunnel Port engine
Same deal with Holmon-Moody, he had them for sale as well as Bud Moore. Well into the '70's. They actually had another name for the T-10M.
I use it as G & G was very precise when ordering new gears or clusters.
Don't confuse the factory with Ford, never happened, sub-contracted. LA airport was the closest factory to Ford and T-10M
All the scrape aluminun and junked; from racing or amaeteur GT-350 owners pounding in the trans: were main case & tail housing aluminum T-10M's.
I saw dozens in both examples, broken main cases on the former and broken ears on the latter. Must have been 1499 and down?
Also G & G has been making a simple $10.00 part that helps T-10M and later series, Super T-10's survive, for 3 decades. Nascar has them installed. SAAC should add a few words and link.
Cast iron T-10's are another story, very weak, I'd be looking at 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th gear in your car for the 9510 alloy or expect the worst, when you least expect it.
Trailer queens exempted or buy Paul's for 7.8K or mine for 20K, Tunnel Port is free.
rick
SSC
SCJ
L-78 SS Camaro - slow ones
Gary:
I'd jump on that aluminum T-10M tail housing, unless it was dated coded and then months away. Which I doubt?
All aluminum is more salable and at a much higher dollar value.
You will not see many of those housings with any of the large Shelby dealers.
rick
I stand corrected, Rick and Tony, said '66's should have T-10M's, as all '65's.
Unfortunately many coucours GT-350's, at national shows, are missing them. They now have top loaders in their place.
Info on '67 is correct.
No such animal as 1/2 M-series and 1/2 plain jane cast iron... at that point, conversation was over.
gears are 9510 as well BW coded, east to see,
before the hang-up
Inventory = 3, in stock
rick
I never saw a T-10m in a Hertz car or a non-left over, have you?
top loader just like my Lime Light'67, what's the unit number?
on the fender tag and T-10M?
Kopec knows the cut-off on the early cars
2 questioons, could be 3?
rick
SSC
SCJ
L-78 SS
I had a lime green '67 GT-350 with a top loader, vin stamped on it and the pan rail, pure san jose
'65 Gt-350 at Tony's shop, yesterday, was pure T-10M plus pod on the dash
Were the '66's detuned on the exhaust, Hertz cars, over-ride bars, re-location points, truck M/C and full top loaders + plexiglass windows?
cast iron T-10's in early cars were pure junk and ended-up on the ground or deck, with good tires and side steping the clutch
round 2 k would you have S1MS in unmolested condition or NOS?
e.g. installing/selling a pair of NOS GT-350R heads.
how hard is it to find the tail shaft?
I think the Mustang guide needs to take a trip, back to the future, via a Delorean? First dealer sale as I remember was a late year intro, coinciding with something called a World Fair. It was and is next to baseball team called "the Mets".
Another real life fact, was 3 speeds were every where in Poppy Red convertibles with D code option, later A codes in true 1965/66 cars. Yet 2 cars down: in 260/289 Falcons, and later 390 Fairlanes hyper-dermic linkage and a 2.32 1st gear.
What I like about the guide is the keen info on 271 hp production, just like G codes in '69 and '70!
Try finding VIN's on the pan rail, yet '63 Fairlanes had the K stamp.
I should also preface this was Metchuen production, as I was next to the infamous Mahwah R code plant.
Maybe San Jose and Dearborn took the 4 speeds and better engines? How's the guide with plant segmentation, districts and zones?
Edison is long gone, as well as Tetterboro, the EPA is still looking for Mahwah? Ford bailed as soon as the 25 year tax abatement ended.
Your neighborly, Japanese Corp owns it now; with Sheraton. They distibute electronics, obscure, small multi-national called SHARP ELECTRONICS, and dirt cheap products.
Actually the D codes were impossible to order or receive up to June 30, 1964.
The only reason that I know: Conover's Cobra Ranch had a Poppy Orange convertible with new quarters in 1980. They were going to lien it for non-payment. I was the buyer for 5K. It was a D code and had no interest, until I was informed by Wayne how rare the car was in '64 and then. I had a K fastback there as well as another back-up car. I never touched A codes or C junk.
As soon as the owner heard I was going to pay Wayne, he came running with cash. Not really a convertible person.
'65 Dodge 426 and some Gold Sun '74 Bug were the excpetions. Both 4 speeds. add a BMW 325, never driven, and still in the fleet somewhere, now.
add 260's to the mix in the very early cars as well.
found a 4C23 intake while assembling K package.
Black paint, and sheet metal baffle still in great shape.
very early K car, Henry Ford II?
I was booted from Juno for reporting Asian scammers and headers. I suppose 2-3 million Chinese in the US were more important than one customer who reported these scammers to their ISP on both ends.
xstates@aol.com is here for a while, as I'm a Dell re-seller, and 6 months is free.
rick
7Exx FOMOCO distributor found in the 271 hp engine sale, early 1966.
will swap with a 1966 FOMOCO 271 hi-po distributor
Similar to the engine, LIKE NEW. Seems like most of my parts/engines come from cars which were rear ended and low miles. I did or do collision work + shoot Sikkens for decades, I knew CT, NJ & LONG ISLAND with the right semi-dealers. Very important.
Engine assembly was fun, everything std, OEM cast FOMOCO pistons, bearings, 1" of wheel bearing grease, unfortunately lost most of the orange paint on the rotating assembly.
Found some on the Bell Housing! Left it.
cast iron water pump was nice too.
Have the OEM 10.5" flywheel, never run with the motor, strictly 11" Boss flywheel.
NOS Boss Flywheel is next to the castings
B15 on the C5AE casting
J30 on each matched Hi-P0 head. perfect seats, ultra low miles,
1965 is the year for the heads
1966 is the year for the block, and fresh .028 bore, finish hone not done
