Posts by SixT5HiPo

    Thanks to Brian's prompting, I'm pleased to say that I made it to the "SAAC 33" on Sunday. I brought my kar, and displayed it with the "Show and Shine" group. I was surprised at how many people stopped to look at my car. A friend told me one guy even got down on the ground to look at the undercarriage! I'm sorry I wasn't there at the time, and missed his reaction to seeing a genuine FoMoCo exhaust system tucked under there. (I was checking out cars at the time.) More than a few took pictures of my car, paying close attention to the original, unrestored engine. There was absolutely no hint of any of the so-called "Shelby snobbery" that I've heard exists within the ranks.


    The weather was just perfect for SAAC 33, with clear blue skies, temperatures in the 80's, and fairly low humidity for all three days. A light breeze made it totally comfortable to be outside. It was great to see some members of this site there, including Bo Sewallius, Francois Fontaine, Mario Messina, Joe Abbatelli, and Brian Walshe. There were at least 4 K code Mustangs spotted besides all of the terrific 289 and 427 Cobras, GT-40's, GT-350's GT-500's, Sunbeam Tigers, Griffiths, Pantera's, "Tribute's", kit cars, and lots of late model Shelby Mustangs and High Performance Fords.


    As many already know, the SAAC group doesn't just park the cars and open the hoods. They RUN vintage cars, and run them FAST. The site SAAC chose for this year's convention was the newly opened New Jersey Motorsports Park. This brand new facility sports two road courses, including a 2.5 mile track which showcased a "Powered By Ford" spectacular of vintage racers, as well as late model action for all three days. Meeting up with guys on this site, and seeing (and hearing) so many great cars in action was well worth the drive, and I'm happy to report that SAAC has chosen to make this facility their convention site in the years to come. WOW!

    Quote from rds289k

    Would some Knowledgeable please chime in with a tutorial on proper K motor mounts? Pieces, pictures, years? =rds=


    We have already discussed this topic quite a bit here over the years. This site has a SEARCH feature that will help pull out all this information for you. Just type in "HiPo motor mounts", and check out all the posts that will appear. Don't forget to select the "Archived Posts" when doing a search because topics automatically go into the Archives about six months after the last reply is made on a topic...


    Here are a few pics to get you started...


    C3OZ-6038-B: HIPO FAIRLANE INSULATOR




    C5ZZ-6038-A: 1965 HIPO MUSTANG INSULATOR



    LOWER FRAME MOUNT



    COMPLETE 1965 MUSTANG MOTOR MOUNT ASSEMBLY

    Quote from canndy

    Could you guys let me know how to attach pics? Sorry, I'm not a computer whiz quite yet...


    Since this site is hosted via a third party, we are not allowed to let users attach files to any posts. This is true with most other online forums similar to these. However, you may "link" to images by adding the image tags directly to the message field of your post if you have uploaded the images from your computer to space provided by your ISP, or to "free" space available from an online picture hosting service website.

    Quote from CharlesTurner

    The way I see it, it's kinda like putting an NOS '66 grille on a '65. You can make it fit and it looks ok, but it's just not the right piece and looks out of place.


    That's one way to look at it, although the exhaust system isn't normally seen until you crawl underneath the car to have a look. I guess I should remove the FoMoCo system and sell it to a '66 $helby GT 350 guy for ALL the traffic will bear, huh? =O

    Quote from 65gtfastback

    If he had left the Arvinode system on the car for that long, he probably liked it right? When one of my Arvinode type replacement mufflers developed an internal rattle, I replaced the entire system with a Modine oval muffler repop setup. Way to quiet compared to the previous Arvinode style... ;)


    Paul


    Quite right, Paul. There's nothing like the sound of the Arvinode system.


    The original owner is now deceased, but his daughter still remembers the sound of her father's HiPo Mustang. One time when I went to visit her, she commented about the sound of the car as it approached from a distance. She said she could hear me coming when I was quite a ways down the road. It reminded her of the days when her father used to visit, and she could hear the engine well in advance. Even her dogs reacted to the sound just like they used to when her dad would visit her.

    Quote from boss1

    Mike, I did not post this response in the "For Sale" category. You posted the car in the "Pricing Discussion" category...a double post. THAT is where I posted. I would never hijack someones for sale ad. It seems the MODERATOR edited the post and put them here, so please take it up with them.

    No harm was intended...The post was moved here because it is the appropriate place for this thread: the car is apparently for sale by a member. The "PRICING INFO" section is mainly devoted to logging and tracking the price of cars that have been sold, or have been offered for sale in a classified ad, magazine, or auction (online or live) that ends with a "No Sale" outcome.

    Quote from CharlesTurner

    Sounds like your car had the arvinode system Gene, now get on the phone with Waldron's and order up! :thumbup::)


    It's a tempting idea, but I think having a genuine FoMoCo exhaust system trumps having an Arvinode repop. However, I may buy one just to have it for the future. I talked to Joe at Waldron's Exhaust about this "predicament", and he agrees that what I have on my car is quite rare, and he wouldn't think about making a change if it was his car.


    Quote from CharlesTurner

    BTW, if the car had the muffler replacement done by a dealer, the rear pipes with resonators would not have been changed. The original instructions for the Arvinode replacement kit instructed to cut the mufflers and just replace that area.


    That's true, and that retrofit is documented on the Ford TSB #16, Article 315, and TSB #17, Article 328.


    I was actually thinking of a fictional situation where a 1965 HiPo Mustang pulls into the Ford dealer years after the TSB issue expired. The original Arvinode system is still on the car, but is rusted out and needs to be replaced. At that point, I'm assuming the dealer would install a "C6ZZ" exhaust system and HiPo H pipe similar to what I did on my car...

    Quote from CharlesTurner

    So, which exhaust does Gene have on his car? Or, what type of hangers were on it originally?


    Quote from round2K

    Gene - what's the scoop on yours?


    OK...here's the scoop. Rear frame rails have the Arvinode exhaust hanger location holes. When I bought the car, the exhaust had "replacement" type mufflers; one side still had a resonator on it, while the other side was missing the resonator and just had a pipe from the muffler to the original turn down.


    I was lucky to get an NOS "C6ZZ" system about four years ago, and promplty installed it. An NOS H pipe and turndowns finished off the installation. The hangers and clamps I used were all NOS pieces for the later style system, and we improvised a band around the resonators to match up to the rear hanger location, which is near the center of the resonator. This worked out very well, and probably matches the way a Ford dealer would have installed the system back in the day.

    I'll take a shot at this one. Mustangs built at the Metuchen Assembly Plant were assigned numbers beginning in the 130000 series. The earliest Metuchen K code VIN listed in the Smart and Haskell book is 5T07K140044. Scheduled build date for this car is 11Q (March 11, 1965). However, 5T07K134663 is listed in The 289 High Performance Mustang Registry, and has a scheduled build date of 15B (February 15, 1965). This happens to be my car. Besides having two build sheets, I have the dealer invoice, which is dated March 31st, 1965. The original engine is still in place, and has never been out of the car. The assembly date stamped on the engine is 5B15, and is the same as the scheduled build date. Does any of this help answer the question, or just add more uncertainty?


    The original owner told me that he ordered the car in late December of 1964 from Lee Heffner Ford, located near his home just outside of Reading, PA. But, the car wasn't delivered and invoiced until March 31st. We know Metuchen came online in February, and although the scheduled build date on this car is the 15th, the car couldn't be built until all the parts were available. Clearly, we can see that scheduled build date of a K code Mustang doesn't follow the expected pattern of normal production Mustangs.

    Quote from canndy

    Also, is it possible to fake a VIN number somehow? The title does have the 5F08K as its first five digits... thanks guys!


    Of course, anything is possible, and there are certainly forged and altered VIN's in the car hobby...The Mustang unibody inner fender VIN stamps are a good starting place to check for authenticity.


    It's important to examine the car at all three locations for the correct numbers, and any signs of alteration. Make sure the character fonts match the original Ford style and spacing. Always be suspicious of replacement VIN plates on the driver's door. Even the presence of an original door plate doesn't guarantee it's original to the car because the door can be easily swapped by removing a few bolts.

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    Clearly no one knows where the heck they went. I can only be hopeful they got buried in a corner and will eventually turn up.

    In the meantime I will keep looking for an alternative pair.


    I'm wondering, if there was already a reimbursement for the loss given to the receiver, will the shipper keep the heads if they are eventually found?

    Quote from GTBullitt

    Just wanted to invite all of you to this years Shelby American Automobile Club (SAAC 33) convention held this year at Thunderbolt Raceway in Millville New Jersey on August 15-16-17...I hope to see Marv and Gene there right boys?? Come on bring those old cars of yours out into the sun for once.


    This sounds like the kind of invitation I can't refuse. It sure doesn't hurt that it's going to be happening right near my home this year. It's too bad that ol' Shelby won't be there. I've always thought it would be great to meet him.

    Quote from Slabsidebob

    Does any body have a pic. of the early C3 dist. as I possibly may have one?


    Yes...there are quite a few pictures of the "C3OF-D" (and the even earlier "C3OF-F") dual point distributors already posted on this site. You can find them by using the ADVANCED SEARCH feature, and type in "C3OF Distributor". Don't forget to check ARCHIVED POSTS box.


    Here are a couple to get you started...



    Quote from itsahipo

    I had my blue "K" T-shirt on Saturday. I didn't see any others. Saw a real nice black 5 or 6 Fairlane GT.


    I wish I knew you were going to Carlisle, Billy. It would have been good to finally meet you...maybe next time?