Posts by C6ZZKGT

  • Street Cam Selection

    Is the LeMans cam the one that Shelby installed into the Hipos in '65-'66?


    In response to this question, if it is directed for all 65 and 66 GT350 production, Shelby did not change the stock Hipo camshaft. The LeMans camshaft was an over the counter option available from both Ford and Shelby.


    -Fred-

  • Primer / Floor question

    While we are on this topic, I am doing a March 66 Dearborn Hipo fastback unit that has a Los Angeles DSO. I really would have thought that a Los Angeles unit would have normally been built in San Jose however I guess that there were exceptions. I cannot find any evidence of red oxide on the rear portion of the Kar. The front section was already previously done by a body shop so I did not check it there. The Kar is originally, and still is, a black Kar and the only color I see on the underside is a thin coat of black and some light surface rust near the rear end and trunk floors. I have high confidence that none of this has been previously redone. I am prepping it for paint now and I am unsure of whether to go with the black or go with red oxide. From what I see so far, I will most likely go with black. Any dissenting opinions out there?


    -Fred-

  • Build Sheet(s)

    Your gauge numbers will generally never match the MPC because the numbers on the gauges are purely engineering numbers. On top of that the engineering number that you are seeing may be for only the face of the gauge and not the actual part. As an example, 65 and 66 amp gauges have the same C5ZF 10671 number on the face of the gauge but they are totally different in function. That number is actually the engineering number for the face of the gauge only.


    -Fred-

  • Build Sheet(s)

    The 75 DSO is for Phoenix. This is listed in both the Ford MPC and Tonys book.


    There was a time in Hipo production where Ford was short on Hipo 289 engines. Actually they were short on standard 289 engines as well. I have never heard of when it was but only that it did happen. My understanding is that Kars were built and waiting for engines. Maybe yours is one of those and that may explain the production date change?


    -Fred-

  • heater hose strap - measurements

    The strap is an 18B465 basic Ford part number and the screw is a 42127-S8. The strap was an assembly line only part and was never serviced as a replacement part. It is considered to be a part that, according to the Ford master parts catalog, needs to be "improvised locally". The screws are still available however they most likely will not have the same markings as an original because Ford used many vendors. The "S8" section of the screw part number indicates that it has a zinc plate finish. However this has changed over the years as the original finish code was for a plain finish.


    -Fred-

  • C3 Flywheel Replacement

    Frank, You may want to recount the teeth on your flywheel. A C3OE flywheel will originally have 160 teeth and not 164. The replacement ring gear for that flywheel now has 157 teeth. The replacement flywheels for a C3OE one will also have 157 teeth. The 164 tooth flywheel is a larger diameter flywheel and uses a different bell housing and is not used in a 65 and 66 Hipo Mustang. The 164 tooth version was used in a 65 Hipo 289 Firlane and it was not a C3OE flywheel. The starter is the same for both the 157 and 160 tooth flywheel. The surface of the flywheel, in my opinion, is really only too thin when it has been surfaced down to the srarter ring gear. Absolutely do not run the flywheel if there are heat cracks deeper than the resurfaced area. I have had the personal experience of being in a car that had deep heat cracks. The flywheel exploded and ruined the back of the block, the frame, the floor and dash assembly basically totalling the car from within. I was fortunate enough not have my feet ripped off by the flywheel chunks that came through the floor. On top of that, I was the passenger and the driver panicked. I had to bring the car to a stop from 70 miles per hour down a slight grade in a residential area, by running the car into the curb sides for around a mile to stop the car as the brake lines had been severed.


    If you choose to replace the flywheel there are many aftermarket billet flywheels available. Please keep in mind that it will need to be match balanced to your existing flywheel as the Hipo flywheel generally has different balancing characteristics from a standard flywheel.


    -Fred-