Posts by J_Speegle_old

    Quote from BoS

    Hi guys,

    Did all 65 and 66 HiPo drive shafts have a green and white

    marking or were there other colors used. Remember we discussed

    this before but don't remember the answer. ............


    No they are not all the same (4 speed and autos would be marked differently) and its not uncommon for the stripes/markings to change a couple of times during a regular production year from what I've seen

    Not sure if the suffix was the date but John since Ford didn't make the tubes the idea that they could not have hung around any specific amount in time is just an assumption IMHO. We have no specific understanding of the codes or the assembly and stocking practices of the companies that supplied the parts to the plants as far as I know.


    Also it would be a big assumption on our part to assume that the dating patterns of a completely different company would match what Ford and other sub contractors used.


    Just one of those current mysteries. ;) but as I wrote above (having owned a dozen or so of these and pictures of many more ) I’m comfortable with my statement until additional information turns up

    Quote from 66gtk

    What would one expect the underside to be? Red Oxide? undercoating?


    Did the factory ever do undercoating?


    During that period and plant the color would have been a dark slightly shinny (not flat) red oxide epoxy primer sealer. No undercoating was applied at the factory though sound deadener would have been applied to the inner surfaces of the quarter panel and rear wheelwells before painting the car body color and the front wheelwells after assembly

    Quote from Mu5tanggt

    My April 66 Metuchen K coupe was ordered new with undercoating ($23)but unsure if this was dealer or factory installed (I would suspect dealer) Its really thick and hard and covers everything but the suspension. Was ordered March 15 and delivered April 6 they were really pumping them out fast!


    Would have been something the dealer sold (and applied or sent out) to the buyer not something done at the factory

    Quote from RPM

    Was this done on all the cars from all the plants?Reason I'm asking is my car is Dearborn car and wondered if this is correct?


    As mentioned before - it was likely (just the odds ;) not originally on your car since only 1 out of 3 cars would have had this detail.


    It thought that the code indicates the diameter and date of the piece of tubing

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    ................It would be great if someone has an original with the intact color for comparison against these restorations.


    Have a nicely colored one I cleaned yesterday (from a CJ I'm doing half way) will see if I can get some pictures this next week. Very flat and not real dark are my first observations


    On second thought here is a shot of the original spindles on my 69 Boss that show the color and finish (they are oiled) Car has 30K on the odometer. Sorry for the rust and grime. Finish IMHO is pretty close to the one I redid above


    The bottom is a NOS service replacement earlier spindel


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    Though that picture would get you all going.


    A few things - First - can not be certain when article that the picture came from, was taken. Looking closely at the picture the engines are painted a different color when compare to the balancers so it's likely during 66 production


    The article does not say where the picture was taken because of the subject of the article it could be a a number of places.


    The tag on the oil filter is the paper engine ID tag that we have seen also on the water pump or the coil and mounting bracket on other cars/years


    The engines do not appear to be the typical production engines (though I knew the picture would be a tease) as they are equipped with 4 barrel carbs, steel intakes, chrome valve covers, narrow balancers and some or all have a tach drive dist.


    Some additional details include - the carbs are bagged, fuel pump mounting point is blocked off, thermostat and water pump hose attachment points are bare metal (as expected) and the exhaust ports are tape off with a single long piece of tape. Guess this would allow the plant to place the correct, for the application, manifold at the plant


    Though these do not appear to be typical they do give us a little insight IMHO into some of the practices of the time

    Without inspecting the car it IMHO is impossible to place a value on the car. As mentioned any changes (like the new paint job), missing parts and such will hurt the value if your trying to get top dollar (people are more forgiving if they are getting it cheaply ;)


    Its a rare car but do not confuse rarity with value - the two are not connected most of the time. You could likely get a dealer to trade you for a new Shelby as they are making new ones (and newer versions :( everyday and they are sitting on showrooms around the country.


    Only time will tell if a trade is a good thing for you - in the long run (if the car is a really good one) I'm betting it would not be but then its not our car.


    If you do let us know what dealer got it and someone will work something out with them.

    Since we're talking just K codes you would want to include (if your counting Shelbys in the mix)


    1- the one 1966 GT350S built


    2- the one 1966 GT350 Zagato (the only K code I recall that was sent directly to Europe and redesigned by a famous car designer)


    3- the 65 Shelby Drag cars (4 of them)


    4- the 66 Trans Am coupes (20 of them)


    5- the 67 Trans AM coupes (26 of them) - (Have ridden in on of the 66's and one of the 67's both loud and fun )


    Of course you could add the 66 GT350 with the non-black interiors (there were one of each - blue and tan interior cars built), as well as another handful of "one of'S" that were built.


    All rarer than the R Models


    Other low numbers would include the 67 K codes that were built and sent to Europe that competed in the Rallys and the 67 K code Mustangs equipped with Thermactors. Don't think there were many built