Posts by Beagle1_old

Tell you what Gary, you buy the 1st one, the mechanical choke kit.

Send it to me, and I will copy mine for you free of charge and send it back to you. Then you can use the proper K code choke cable, and the choke will work properly. I can take a better pic of mine with the air cleaner off later this evening and post up the pic when I get a chance. Then you can see the whole thing, and possibly even copy it yourself. There's nothing to it when you have enough parts.

You parts will be safe if I were to do it, ask Dunc289, he can vouch for me as well as Chucks302. I have delt with both of them in the past.

You are not the 1st one to have this Z in your casting. There was a guy on the Ford Muscle site a couple years ago with a 289 standard 4v block out of a 65 Falcon with a Z5 casting.

He was being questioned as to the Z not being a C.

I chalk it up to a guy at the foundry in Windsor drinking to much at lunch. That Canadian beer is potent.

Good luck with finding an answer and if you do, please POST IT!

Gary, here is the other side of the engine. Back in the 60's the Trip's came with an automatic heater riser type choke. They had a little stamped steel shroud that attached to the LH exh man and a tube that ran up to the choke.

Now I fabricated my own manual choke set up using all Holley parts. Some people really get creative and do odd things. My favorite is using the choke backwards. So when your driving around the cable is pulled out. UGH! Why? Mine uses the stock cable and works the proper way. Though I have never needed the choke? Yet others go electric...not era correct, so I have to deny that idea. And others will get a really long cable and wrap it around the front of the engine.

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Here is a GREAT SITE and a heck of a nice guy, there is a great pic of a restored Tri Power with the temp sending unit on the first page:

http://www.gerlecreek.com/documents/tptechnical.htm

Retired USN Commander Brattland knows Tri Power! He helped me out a lot. And his book is a great investment. Worth 10x the cost.

The stock hood will clear the Tri Power as long as you don't have any spacer plates. Many people back in the 60's installed Moroso or other brands of spacers to isolate the heat from the carbs. I have found that driving around on the center carb heats up the fuel in the other two carbs, then when you get on it hard it runs poorly until fresh cool fuel gets into the front & rear bowls.

If I keep my Kar I will be spacing the carbs up. If i have to sell it this spring (currently unemployed and NOT looking promising), I will sell the Tri Power seperate and install the stock hood.

You will notice TWO temp senders in my pics. The one in the T/Stat housing goes to an electric SW temp gauge. So I have a sender pre & post T/Stat. I also have a mechanical Oil Press gauge. That is the black with red stripe hose you can see on the LH side. It looks old, but it's the Aeroquip super light hose. I choose it because it blends in under the hood.

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Restored 65 GT350 carb worth around $1500, S2MS carb restored with date code in range to be original equipment for 66-67 GT350 worth around $1200. I can purchase these carbs from a noted carb restorer for these prices as of 6 months ago. Your carb is definitely not original equipment BUT is an original service replacement, identical to the ones used in 65-67. I would guess it be worth $1000 restored, maybe $750 how it is now. Ebay may tell a different story though, you could get 2 that REALLY want it bad.

I couldn't get bidding over to go over $700 with ebay on a Pony Restored to Concours, GENUINE 1966 GT 350, July 1966 dated carb. At TWO attempts. I gave it back to my Dad, I don't know what he ended up selling it for. Yet I was offered $500 for the unrestored core?

Joe Bunetic is a heck of a nice guy. He really helped me out with my Tri-Power when I was trying to tune it in with the incorrect center carb. At no financial gain to himself. I owe him one...BIG TIME!

I was unaware of the black plates, maybe it's the repops that have the brass ones.

Looks like a re-pop to me. Black oxide throttle plates and ink stamp on secondary. This is based off of owning one that came off a totalled 66 GT350.

Where does it say it was built in the casting on the float bowl?

Thanks Duncan, I didn't remember for sure if it was listed on there or not. I am beginning to think the Kar's original owner knew somebody, or had a lot of things added at the service station he owned.

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As more of the Ford performance enthusiasts of the 1960s pass on there is just no telling what will hit the market.

Dan

Dan, the thing that is much worse than someone selling stuff to cheap, is throwing it out! If someone like you buys below market for your collection, that's great.

But how many rare items do you think families of former employees throw away? 20 years ago, before the WWW, I used to go to plenty of people's homes for Mustang parts from the classifieds of a newspaper. Some of there current or former FoMoCo employees had some cool rare stuff. How many people have seen CLEAR 289 valve covers? Used on the dyno in Dearborn to watch for vavletrain issues. I didn't buy them for $20 back then. I was just a kid.

Gives me chills thinking of how much stuff ended up in landfills.

Thanks for all that info Dan. I have repop C3 emblems, not boght as NOS.

Now, the Cobra stickers that were on the boxes...I have two mint rather large ones in a plastic sleeve from Bob Ford in Dearborn, MI. Same thing, they were in a box that a tech back in the 60's opened to install one of the Cobra parts.

A very close, but much older friend (alternate father figure) of mine preserved them for 30+ years in his desk (he was the shop foreman until around 1999). He gave them to me when I left to move away. God rest his soul, he took good care of a loudmouth 18 year old kid and showed me the ways of the world over the next 9 years.

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My question is, what was the fender insignia used for that's shown on pg. 95 in the book?

You may want to have a read through this thread as well:

http://www.hipomustang.com/hpmx/topic.asp…ue&TOPIC_ID=968

Anyone know what ever happened to this Kar?

Pretty cool, Cobra medallions on the fenders in one of those pics, right where I attach mine at the car shows. Yet they are different than mine, and from the ones shown in the 1963 Cobra parts catalog.

But the same as MTS'. Must have been a a couple different kinds back then I suppose, like everything else with these Kars. I am assuming somewhere in late 64, early 65 they may have changed from my style to the MTS owned style with the OTC parts kits.

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Originals are very rare indeed. Repops are out there now though. They also happened to be 289 Cobra truck badges. It is my understanding they were all pinned though, not adhesive. Also stated in these ads.

My Dad tells me many people back in the day put them where the GT badges usually were, or just above the 289 badges.

I bought 2 repops and glued magnetic sheeting to them after cutting the pins off. I then place them on the fenders or inner fenders at certain car shows.

This is where you could buy them seperate...

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Here's where they came with the Tri-Power...

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In the pictures I was recently looking at for hipos they show one of the hose sections installed along the top of the intake manifold and the other beside it held in place with two aluminum ties.

Sounds like a pic of my Kar? As I did mine this way when I saw pics of another one like that in one of my many hardcover Mustang books.

Now I decided to use the aluminum ties for conveinence, not corectness. Running tri-power I wanted to make my life easy for adjusting valves.

Now when I posted pics of my engine compartment, Mr. Turner pointed out the incorrect routing and the aluminum straps. I was not bothered by it, as I explained why I did it the way I did. My Kar isn't concours, so I wasn't worried.

Here's a couple of the pics from before:

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Yup, Black Fastback with Torque Thrust wheels. Sounded good too.

The production dampers were assembled in Litchfield, Michigan by Simpson Industries. The print which I saw with my own two eyes this past summer, if I recall correctly, called for black paint, with the seal surface protected.

Now, being painted over with corporate blue after being installed wouldn't surprise me. But for Simpson to ship them bare would surprise me. But at the rate Mustangs were being built, anything was possible.

FWIW, the C8 service part dampers were assembled in Canada by the RJ Simpson plant. Those were indeed black.

Dunc289 should have a copy of a window sticker with the Woodgrain Wheel as an option, and not part of a decor package. His Gold 66 GT K-convert has a woodgrain wheel with standard interior with a bench seat.

Duncan...you out there?

That wasn't the same Kar from the 80's TV show was it? Hollyweird likes to bring cars back out for other series.

Spencer For Hire was the show.

By pass hose & clamps from the intake to the water pump too if you want real correctness.

And pics are always welcome

Yet I have at least one "expert" at every single show I attend tell me mine is a fake HiPo because of the dual master cylinder Or my fan is wrong is my 2nd favorite.

Sorry, the M/C is something I did because I lost a car due to a single master when I was 16. Sure everything is new now, but it is my little piece of sanity.

Sorry you had to sell, and at the same time happy it worked out for you.

I could be in the same postion in about a month though...Bad News finally came out of F*** that will most likely eliminate my wife's job

Might have to sell the K to get her new job training and pay bills, as she is >50% of our household income.

Funny thing, a letter from Ford. They are not in a big hurry to help anyone make more money off of a car. If it was so rare and experimental, a museum would want it wouldn't they?

It appears to have a 350'somthin' in it. Like a 351w out of a 77 T-bird.

FWIW, my cousin has a 65 Fastback A code that is supposed to have been Lee Iacocoa's company car. It has a lot of TRUE experimental parts in it with XE part numbers. And leather interior, that is definitely from 1965, and an engraved very old plaque in the dash stated it belongs to Mr. Iacocoa.

Try getting Ford (or Lee) to document it...not happening on paper. Someone did verbally, but that's it. My uncle found it in a barn about 27 years ago with the above mentioned oddball items, and he restored it, then sold it to my cousin. It was featured in Mustang Monthly back in 85 or 86, and they seemed to believe it.

Wonder if the car above could be featured