Hi,
Hope you guys had a nice thanksgiving.
I found San Jose paperwork under the back seat
of my 67 Shelby when I bought it in 1977.
/Bo
Hi,
Hope you guys had a nice thanksgiving.
I found San Jose paperwork under the back seat
of my 67 Shelby when I bought it in 1977.
/Bo
Hi guys,
Mike, BIGERMIKE asked me to post the link to this
excellent article about motor oils.
It's well worth reading.
http://www.micapeak.com/info/oiled.html
/Bo
Hi,
I painted my drive shaft on 5S275 with three
different colored rings, light blue,
dark blue and black. This was after looking at
5R104 that was restored by? in the early
90's. There was an article with many pictures in
Mustang Monthly showing this car.
Is it the wrong colors for a San Jose built early May
65 HiPo (Shelby), I don't know but I'll leave these
on for now until somebody can prove they are wrong.
/Bo
Hi,
I'll say the carb, if the date code is correct,
is worth about $500-600. If it is 593, it would have come off
a 66 Shelby. It would be too late for a 65 Shelby. My friend has 6S923 and the carb is dated 581, i.e. First week of Aug.1965.
/Bo
Talk about a "Just In-Time Supply Chain already
in 1965. Shelby 5S275's engine block casted 4/23,
engine assembled in Cleveland on 5/3, sent to San Jose
to be meeting up with the rest of the car, driven off the line,
shipped to L.A. and arrive there at 5/13. Could be like this:
5/3- engine ready
5/4- shipped by train to San Jose
5/7 or 8- arriving at San Jose
5/10- car complete and ready to go.
5/11- shipped to L.A.
5/13- arrive at L.A.
Very tight but possible. As said above, I am very impressed by their Supply Chain.
/Bo
My experience, which isn't that great on ownership of
HiPo engines, is the opposite to yours. My 65 Shelby %275 has the
original stamped block, the 66 Shelby #923 that I used to co-own has
original stamped block, the engine in my 67 Shelby (not-original)
has a stamped block (August 64) and a 67 HiPo engine I used to own had a stamped block as well. The 65 and 66 Shelbys were very visable
without any cleaning necessary while the other two took some real
work to make visable. Those two were found in Sweden and had been
used in winter times which made the surface rust quite deep.
In fact, many years ago here in Texas I was looking at a 65 GT HiPo
coupe and couldn't find the vin on the block and passed on the car
for $9500. The guy that bought it took off the paint and the vin was there.
/Bo
Some more info on 6S923. Scheduled production at San Jose
was around 12A, i.e. Jan.12, 1966 and engine assembly date
Jan.6. 1966. Only six days. Block cast date was Dec. 4, 1965.
/Bo
Hi,
My original engine block cast date is 5D23 and my
engine assembly date is 5E3, i.e. 10 days later.
Car arrived at Shelby on 5/13 another 10 days later
than the engine assembly date. Car is 5S275.
As you can see a very tight time line. Engine shipped from
Cleveland to San Jose and put in the car and shipped from San
Jose to L.A. All in just 10 days. Maybe they flew the
engines to San Jose. My 513 carb is not the original to my car.
As regards your time line, I think you have done a terrific
job to identify the most probable block cast date and assembly
date. However, I believe it could even be a bit closer to the
5L10 date than almost a month earlier 5K11.
Are we sure that the engines were assembled at the Cleveland
plant or were the blocks just casted there? Personally, I haven't seen any documents saying neither nor.
It's a very interesting subject and I am as crazy as you are
on date codes. Have created a spread sheet with all dates
that relates to my car and it's various parts, sheet metal and
others.
Good luck with your continued research.
/Bo
The problem I have is the reference in your poll email between
the assembly date of the engine and the Holley carb date.
"This relates to the code on my 715 carb, built 3rd week of Oct or 5O3, thus my engine assembly date would have to be 3rd or 4th or 5th week of Oct."
To my knowledge, there is no correlation between the two.
Can your carb date be original to your car, absolutely.
/Bo
Hi,
Don't understand your comment on the assembly
date of the engine. The engine was assembled
shipped to and installed at San Jose with an Autolite
carb and then Shelby replaced them with a Holley for the
4-speed cars (also automatics through car #799) at his L.A.
plant. This means that the date code on a Holley can be
whatever date earlier than the car was reworked at Shelby.
For example, 6S923 was produced at Shelby in Feb 1966,
engine assembly date is Jan 6, 1966 but the original Holley
carb is dated 581, i.e. first week of Aug 1965.
/Bo
Thanks Dave,
That's the way my 65 bar is as well. As said above
I bought it at a Denver Ford place in 1991 and it had the
Ford tag on it. This means I don't have to change it.
/Bo
Thanks Fred,
Could you post a picture, please.
/Bo
Hi guys,
Have a qustion for you, as regards the original 65 HiPo
Equalizer Bar:
On which side of the pipe is the down pointing bracket
(connecting the rod to the shift fork) welded, towards the front
or towards the rear when mounted?
My friend's car has it welded towards the rear and my
NOS Ford replacement bar has it welded towards the front when mounted. Looked at different vendors repos and they are different as well, some welded towards the front and others welded towards the rear. Thanks for your help.
/Bo
Have done business with Perogie for many years.
Quite expensive but parts are what they are advertised
to be and they (brothers) have always been honest to
me and my friends.
/Bo
Hi,
I have two dust shields in their original Ford bags
and they are black. Not sure how they were from the factory
though.
/Bo
Hi,
I have Ford Service Part brackets and they are black.
looks like they were dipped as there is a paint run
on the backside.
Number is C3DZ-8149-B
/Bo
Hi again,
This is a very interesting subject. Yesterday I saw two different
San Jose radiators C4ZE, W-MO, both dated 5 65, one having a Y2 and the other G2. Both are for manual transmissions.
To me this must mean there is a difference to the cars these were
originally installed on. Why the difference otherwise?
I know the G2 are used on 65 Shelbys. Have seen original 1965 pictures of cars and cars with radiators marked G2 dated 2 65, 3 65, 4 65, and 5 65. Never seen an original 65 Shelby radiator with these
dates marked Y2 though.
Comments,
Thanks,
/Bo
Done Phil,
/Bo
I believe this is false advertising when it states
289 Hi-Po K-code, don't you guys agree?
If the car is not a K-code, i.e has a K in the
serial number it should not be advertised as such.
Just my two cents.
/Bo
Hi Jeff,
My 67 Shelby is 67402F7A01317, outboard lights with
a Z marking on the plate. Original dealer was Stockton
Quincy Ford Inc.in Westwood, Los Angeles.
I was there (35 year anniversary of the Mustang)
with those guys. Drove up from Texas.
/Bo