Posts by CharlesTurner

CharlesTurner · Original Battery Holddown Clamp CharlesTurner May 12, 2006 at 10:41 AM

I suspected they were confidential. No problem. Thanks for the link.

I would be interested to know if that image you showed was a blueprint or a drawing though. I'm sure you know the blueprint is what is actually used to make the part and will contain revision information.

CharlesTurner · Original Battery Holddown Clamp CharlesTurner May 11, 2006 at 10:08 PM

Tom: Any particular reason you removed the drawing? I think it's great that you can provide original Ford drawings and info to us.

CharlesTurner · Original Battery Holddown Clamp CharlesTurner May 11, 2006 at 3:43 PM

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Isn't the clamp in the pic above installed upside down and backwards?

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CharlesTurner · Original Battery Holddown Clamp CharlesTurner May 11, 2006 at 10:22 AM

A friend took a picture of the hold-down clamp of his unrestored '66 GT coupe with a scheduled build date of December 15, 1965. It has the "tanged" version. He says his Dad has a November, 1965 Mustang('66 year model) that also has the same version. He's going to check his unrestored low mile '66 coupe in a few days. I called Bob Perkins last night and discussed with him, he said he would check out his '66 cars. He said his 35 mile '66 coupe did not have the heavy duty battery option though. I think he has at least 2 more low mile '66 mustangs.

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CharlesTurner · Original Battery Holddown Clamp CharlesTurner May 11, 2006 at 9:55 AM

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The January 1965 Ford parts and accessories catalog lists part #C2DZ 10718 A for 40/45 amp battery and C2DZ 10718 B for the 55 amp battery. The January 1966 Ford parts and accessories catalog lists C2DZ 10718A for the 45 amp battery (same as 1965) it lists C5DZ 10718 A for the 55 amp battery. It looks like the change was made somewhere in between.

Rich, the C2DZ is the long clamp for 22F battery. The C5DZ is the short one for heavy-duty 24F battery, which was an RPO. You can see the C5DZ service tag on both of the clamps at the top of this thread.

CharlesTurner · Original Battery Holddown Clamp CharlesTurner May 10, 2006 at 7:42 PM

Just curious, is that an engineering design drawing or a blueprint? Is the engineering number of the clamp C5GB-10718-A or -B?

Here's the assembly diagram from the Osborne Assy manual, there is no release date, the Page is noted as 'E5-8128', from the Electrical Assy manual:

http://www.early-mustang.com/charles/hold-down.jpg

You can see they specifically reference the "Tang" in step 1.

While there is no release date on the drawing, we know it applied to '65 production as noted on the top left "1965". Throughout the assy manuals, you will see "1964" or both 64 and 65 if it applies to both. This one only has 1965.

It looks like we have more work to do in trying to determine when the switch was made to the non-tabbed version. Based on unrestored cars I have seen, I have observed the tabbed clamp used as late as June of '65(at least 4 examples). I have a couple friends that are going to check their unrestored '66 cars and let me know what they find.

CharlesTurner · Original Battery Holddown Clamp CharlesTurner May 9, 2006 at 11:01 AM

There's a good engineering diagram of the battery hold-down and carrier in the Osborne assembly manuals. If you have the correct hold-down with the tab, it's easier to see how it goes. The side with the tab attaches closest to the battery with the tab pointing down and sliding into a groove on the battery.

I'm going to put together a little "tech" sheet on the installation of these and start handing them out at shows. Out of 10 show cars, at least half will have the hold-down mounted wrong.

CharlesTurner · Original Battery Holddown Clamp CharlesTurner May 9, 2006 at 9:45 AM

The one with the locater tab is the correct one. The tab actually fits into the original battery. This is something we put in the MCA rulebook this year for concours judging.

I'm surprised to see an NOS one with the tab, it seems like all the service ones I have seen did not have the tab. I have 2 originals with the tab.

I was thinking that one without the tab could be laser cut and the tab pressed out. An MCA friend in FL was checking with a friend of his if it could be done.

CharlesTurner · Box of 10 NOS BF-32 Sparkplugs CharlesTurner March 12, 2006 at 10:17 PM

WOW!!

CharlesTurner · HiPo Main Caps CharlesTurner February 5, 2006 at 10:14 PM

Youch! Dang, how am I going to find a #4 cap!!

CharlesTurner · NOS early 65 air cleaner CharlesTurner September 5, 2005 at 5:26 PM

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Could it be a leftover NOS replacement painted with a generic color?

Very common for service replacement parts to sometimes be a little different than factory line parts.

CharlesTurner · am/fm radio CharlesTurner June 15, 2005 at 9:38 AM

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Anybody heard of the "Ford studio-Sonic" option ?

It was a rear speaker and a "re-verb box" in the trunk.

Just wondering how rare they are. I have original installed and also the "ford" specs wiring diagram for mine. Still works great and there is an "oldies AM" in STL. Am and re-verb now that IS nostalgic!

This was an available dealer option. The parts that I have seen were Motorola. Included a center rear speaker in the package tray, the box in the trunk and then a dial on the bottom edge of the dash.

CharlesTurner · am/fm radio CharlesTurner June 15, 2005 at 9:36 AM

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Apparently the AM/8 track stereos can be modified also. Anyone have one that was upgraded, if so what was done and what are the results. As much as I like the old-time sound and quirks of my 8-track, I might go for the upgrade to make it sound better.

The prices on the AM/FM radios are incredible. What is the AM/8-track going for these days? I haven't seen one for sale so have no idea.

Does anyone have a AM/8 track stereo? What speakers are in your car and are they original?

8-tracks seem to sell around $250-350. They require a slightly larger hole in the dash, but if your dash has been cut, this is a slick way to fix it if you aren't concerned that your car didn't come with an 8 track originally. In addition, door speakers are required to be "correct", i believe they are 5x10?? There are a few better options for the door speakers.

Another cool thing is you can get a converter for the 8-track that will allow you to play casette tapes. And then there's a converter from casette to CD! When I had my fastback I could play CD's through the 8-track system, very cool. <img src=images/icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>