Posts by 66gtk

    I saved the doors for last. Lot's of built up paint, runs, loss of grain pattern, etc. Decided to strip to bare metal and start over. pics below follow progression from start to finish. I know many will dissagree with my method of not using epoxy primer and such, but I'm sharing anyway. I'm not an expert, but it's fun to tinker and learn. We'll see what happens. Fun times indeed.


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    after some paint stripper...

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    now after some wheel cleaning...

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    a dust coat of Krylon (directions say to paint over bare metal, so I used very light coats)

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    3-4 coats later...

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    detail of grain pattern intact again...

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    Yes, I'm resurrecting this thread.... I feel it's important to have a written record of this stuff so that the corporate "suits" can't keep saying nobody else has any issue....must be your fault. I think the manufacturers need to hear what's going on.


    As you have read in this thread, I put new Mass Backed ACC carpet in my convertible in the spring of 2008. I was pleased with how easy it was to install. The mold was strong and tight. There were no wrinkles or other things other than the tranny tunnel was a bit large/high, but not a deal breaker for me at the time. I have to believe it was the 80/20 loop b/c it gets very fuzzy easily and doesn't wear well at all. I suggest never wearing shoes in a car with this carpet and never vacuuming it hard if you want it to last.


    Fast forward to March/April 2010 - I'm doing my '65 fastback carpet now. I can report that the black RAYLON carpet seems to be much better with respect to wear. It does not yet appear to get fuzzy and I've been working it hard trying to get it to lay down/fit. Still no fuzzies. Time will tell about fading.


    The bad news is that I had to give up on my first set and order a new one. The back fit OK (maybe, as I haven't installed the interior panels yet to confirm. The front fit was terrible. Couldn't get the wrinkles/creases out, way too large over the transmission hump (I have a 4 speed). After wasting an entire day, I gave up. If I hadn't had such an easier install on my convertible I would have thought I was doing something wrong.


    The current second set was a little better in regards to fit. I think they left it in the mold longer. Still not as good as my convertible experience. Wrinkling/poor fit in the heel/toe pad area, and over the hump were large long "dents" in the carpet and backing. I spent days and hours trying to relax things. Heat guns, damp towel ironing, etc...I couldn't fix it. The heel pad doesn't lay down flat near the tunnel area, and never will (no problem here on my 'vert carpet) Perhaps it would settle after being partially installed for a while? Well, it's impossible to partially install this without cutting a good 4-6 inches off the ends in all 3 trimmable directions. The shifter area also needs to be cut. Well, have fun returning cut carpet...


    This second set is now installed, but not without the visible problems of the dents, and wrinkles on the trans tunnel area. Where the front overlaps the back, the front has a sort of serged edge. Well, my black carpet should have a black edge, no? I see metal like stitching all along this highly visible edge with seemingly no yarn or other black material covering it up. There are also a few areas were the nap is not even and I have a few "high" loops that stick up way past the rest. I have little/faith that a 3rd set will be any better as I was assured the vendor rep personally inspected this set prior to shipping, and it was custom made for me (twice). At this point, I'm giving up and will have to live with what I have. Thank goodness it's a driver.


    Still, I find the consistency and quality control of this carpet company to be highly inadequate. I think we need to voice our opinions with real world feedback and insist on better carpet. I honestly hope your installation experience goes well. It seems to be hit or miss... I still think the mass backing is a good idea when it works well, but if there is any problem with the carpet, the extra mass backing exacerbates the problem.


    I have also read elsewhere that Trim Parts makes carpet. I have further read that they are both using the same carpet, supplied by Dorset. I can't confirm this as fact, but it's what I read.


    Troy

    I don't know - I can't even find the right hardware for this assembly from AMK. Let me know if you find them.


    As for the gaskets, the only gaskets/sealers I found on dissasembly where around each of the rectangles between the metal and plastic sliding pieces. I retained them as best I could.


    Troy

    Here's the middle part of the assembly. The black plastics cleaned up easy, the metal slide glides on the backside (not pictured) were pretty cruddy, but cleaned up reasonably well. The chrome sliders are Scott Drake Reproduction you see and are VERY NICE. The exterior chrome peices must have been rechromed at some point as mine are perfect. I always thought they were reproductions, but I guess there aren't any available??


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    ALEX is my hero!! Thank you so much for sharing that ebay link. I was able to grab those suckers (I was skeptical), but look how nice the inserts are after some easy soap, water, and tooth brush- I can't believe it and I would think they were NOS if I didn't remove them from the panels myself....


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    Quote from duckdog1958

    I would rather not make a permanent record of my subjective observations of the car. Being that it may end up belonging to some future member of this forum. I invite anyone who may be bidding on it to contact me.

    :)


    Wise idea, and thank you for your offer to share your impressions.

    Quote from topdownK

    28.5K plus needs paint 3-6k..... other cosmetics 1.5-2k more. Add it up. Ouch!


    Even that is dreaming. Paint and body will be at least double/triple those estimates with the rust/neglect I see in the photos.

    I sprayed this Krylon product over some areas of bare metal in my engine compartment 3 years ago, and it still looks just as good. I spilled brake fluid over the firewall and didn't clean it up properly since then, which stripped some paint to bare metal, but I don't think that's the paint's fault. I then cleaned around the area a little and reshot the paint right over the metal again. That area has held up perfectly and it's been almost 2 years now.


    The directions on the can say NO NEED to use primer unless you are trying to build up areas, and I didn't want to build up the grain. When it comes to paint and prep, I don't like going against the manufacturer's directions or mixing paint systems, so that's what I did. It looks great now. I guess we'll see if it can hold its bond to the metal over the test of time. Yes, I know the claims sound too good to be true for a $5 can of paint, but so far so good.

    Used the wire brush/drill attachment today on the inside of my trap door (I am assuming the stamped metal is identical???).


    Before I started, there was no grain at all left from the multiple heavy coats of paint. It took 3-4 treatments of aircraft stripper to get it down to a reasonable level where I could tell the grain was still there. I did the rest with the drill attatchment until I got the entire area in a bright shiny metal. It looked great, but even looked better when I topped it off with a few coats of paint. It looks fantastic. I think I can do the doors this way with little difficulty (other than protecting my car's paint with some tape and plastic/paper.


    I sprayed Krylon Rust Tough semi flat black directly on the bare metal. Starting with a mist coat, and then 2-3 more light coats until it was fully covered. I've been very happy with this paint on all my Mustang projects so far, and am using it throughout the interior right now. I tried the hinges in the 51613 (Krylon 1613 replacement) and it was too glossy.


    Troy

    Hopefully an easy question for someone out there. How was the back (trunk side) of the fastback trap door, hinges, and prop hardware finished? Body color, interior color, natural??? Also, was the latch or striker painted at all? I have a San Jose early '65.


    Thanks,

    Troy