Posts by Pete Bush_old

    Charles,


    From your response in the alternator thread, it sounds like you have copies of the 1965 and 1966 single-year MPC. If it wouldn't be too much trouble, could you provide relevant engineering codes or scans of the appropriate page(s) for comparison sake?

    Charles,


    The odd codes were on a right-hand drive export car with a note on the bottom that said: - 22 to 1 STEERING RATIO - USE PART C4ZR 3504E


    Strange codes were found in the shocks, and front & rear springs.


    Car is a Metuchen built A-code with a 08K build date and 0284 DSO.

    Wow! What a great resource.


    I see what you mean. The part numbers are totally different. Just so I'm clear, this refers to the '65 model year? Do you know if it carries through to '66? Is the TSB dated?


    Still.... I have 3 build codes for 1966 shocks. There should be another combination besides Special Handling Package, and all others.


    Question: Did the SHP come with a 16:1 or 22:1 steering ratio? The TSB says 16:1.

    Continuing my 1965 and 66 research to shocks.


    My review of the 65-72 MPC shows three different shocks for the front of the car: one for all regular Mustangs (Auto-flex), one for Mustangs with the Special Handling Package (SHP - including HiPo's) (Auto-flex ), and one for GT350's (Koni).


    The review of the rear shocks seems a little more complex due to some strange notations in the MPC. It would appear that there were two different shocks available for regular Mustangs; one called "Regular" and one called "Auto-flex"?


    The Auto-flex , which I would presume to be applicable for the SHP seems to exclude the H/D suspension?


    Then there's a "Super-flex" rear shock, an "Air Shock", and another "Koni" for GT350's?


    I have three build sheet codes for shocks to-date. The first is "F" which seems to apply to all regular Mustangs; both 200 & 289. The next code is a "G", which seems to indicate the SHP. And the last code is a "9" which I found on a right-hand drive car with a note for 22:1 steering (which I would conclude is a SHP car as well).


    Can someone shed some light on the rear shock applications, as specified in the MPC?

    Charles,


    I'm using the 65-72 MPC. Section 10346 Alternator Application Chart pg. 34 for 1966 (the current year of my build sheet study). It appears that for 1965 the 45 amp alternator was also available. The 1966 build sheet code for the 45 amp alternator was "9".


    I have three '65 Metuchen build sheets for K-codes, and none has a code indicated for alternators.


    The two '66 K-code build sheets I have both have an "8". One is a Metuchen 11K date and one is a Dearborn 26D.


    Edited by - Pete Bush on 10/29/2010 07:48:43


    Edited by - Pete Bush on 10/29/2010 07:53:35

    1966 Build Sheets have a field entitled RAD NS (Radio Noise Suppression), TRAN REG (Transistorized Regulator), ALT. (Alternator).


    For T, C, and A code engines this field is normally blank. However, for K-codes this field usually carries an “8” code.


    My MPC indicates that only two alternators were available on Mustangs: the 38 and 42 amp.


    While I have codes for 45, 53, 55, and 60 amp alternators, these only were available on other Ford vehicles.


    If I assume that a blank field indicates the baseline 38 amp alternator was used on most Mustangs, then an “8” code indicates something other than the baseline. And since the 42 amp alternator is the only Mustang option, I would conclude that the 42 amp unit was used on the K-codes I have build sheets on.


    Edited by - Pete Bush on 10/29/2010 07:50:20

    Thanks for looking, guys.


    When I started the build sheet decoding process, and constructed the driveshaft table, like Bob, I expected there to be a separate entry for the Hipo with C-4. Then it seems it was ignored again now that I've moved on to the front spring table. Curious...


    Richard,

    The 1966 manual matches the part numbers from my version, but uses decimal inches instead of fractional?


    I've found a reference that suggests there were two types of C-4's used in '66.


    Type I with shift ratios of:

    First 2.46:1 Second 1.46:1 Third 1.00:1 Reverse 2.20:1


    And Type II with shift ratios of:

    First 2.40:1 Second 1.47:1 Third 1.00:1 Reverse 2.00:1


    I believe that Type I was used on all T, C, and A codes, and wonder if Type II was used on K's? I've been reading here where the internals (valve body for one) were different in the HiPo C-4 and wonder if this resulted in a different set of shift ratios? 4-speeds seemed to differ with a closer ratio used in the Hipo.

    Thanks, Fred.


    I would expect a different driveshaft length due to the different length of the C-4 itself, as seen in the difference of manual and automatic C & A code driveshafts - but maybe I'm wrong<img src=images/icon_smile_question.gif border=0 align=middle>


    What are the books you are referring to that would carry such information?

    Hi,

    New to the forum, and need some help identifying part specifications.


    One area is the driveshafts on C-4 cars. As noted in my blog http://mustangcodex.blogspot.com/2010/10/driveshaft.html I would expect there to be a different length and part number, but there's no reference in the 65-72 Master Parts Catalog. Is there a specification?


    Another area I'm working on next is the front springs, and the specification for the K-code C-4 combination seems to be missing there, as well...?


    Pete